This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/related attachment ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C53C5F.9FF4FE00 Yep. it works. But it makes big, loose knots compared to the vice grips method. You DO have to use the round nose method, however, if you are = making a loop that will slip over bass string windings. =20 I'm spending some time tomorrow with David Vanderhooven who posted the = nice pictures you referred to. Maybe he and I will slug it out and the winner will get back to you. <G> =20 My method is not MY method, BTW, it was in a Bill Spurlock journal = artical and is the method being taught at the Associates Seminar. I just think = it is at least 15 degrees cooler than the "old" way. But it's not worth any = raised hackles, so sorry if I sounded preachy. =20 I posted the following earlier today: =20 This is a CLASSIC example of something that is very hard to learn out of = a book or by anyone's written description. The ONLY use for round nosed pliers, IMH?O, is to make a biggish loop to wind around itself as a = hitch pin loop. For splicing, it's two hard to make the loops small enough and even enough and you tend to get at least one sharp corner in each loop. Then, when you want to tighten the knot, you have to pull it way too = much so it's hard to control where the knot ends up in the piano. =20 For splicing string, forget every other method and get yourself some 5" = Vice Grips (I think it says 5CW on the handle). This easily makes SMALL loops that come together in a small, tight knot.=20 =20 ... [see the] PTG Technical Exam Sourcebook... In the copy I have, page = V4 has a good set of pics to show splicing in this manner and page V5 has = a great hitch-loop procedure demonstrated ... It's so much easier to learn aural and mechanical skills when they are demonstrated and then you can = try it in the presence of the one teaching. Hard to learn in the abstract = and on your own. That's been the frustration of most of us in the business ... =20 Alan R. Barnard Salem, MO -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Avery Todd Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:33 PM To: Pianotech Subject: RE: Splicing Strings Well, Alan. Can you provide some pictures/instructions on the "vice = grip" method?=20 I just showed my "apprentice" the pictures/instructions that David sent = and I'll=20 have to say that that is the way I passed the technical exam. So I = 'KNOW' it works.=20 Avery=20 At 01:23 PM 4/8/05, you wrote: For everyone who struggles with this: Find someone who can show you how = to use the 5" vice grip method (put the round nose pliers away). In 5 = minutes, you'll be an expert. =20 Alan R. Barnard Salem, MO -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [HYPERLINK "mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Richard Gullion Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:35 AM To: Pianotech Subject: RE: Splicing Strings I have yet to master the KNOT...and is probably the major stumbling = block for me, in trying the technical exam for RPT. Any ideas ??[]=20 jason kanter <jkanter@rollingball.com> wrote:=20 Nice pix. One BIG warning: if the break is between agraffe and tuning = pin, make sure you pass the string through the agraffe *before* forming the = loop in that section of string! -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [HYPERLINK "mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf Of David Vanderhoofven Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:56 PM To: Pianotech Cc: Matthew Todd Subject: Re: Splicing Strings Hi Matthew, Here is one way to do a splice. I am sure there are at least 6 or 7 = other methods that will work also! splice1.jpg Using round nose pliers, make a 270 degree bend in one wire. Then make another 270 degree bend in the wire you are using to make the splice = with. splice2.jpg Connect the two pieces of wire as shown. splice3.jpg As you pull on the ends of the wires, the knot will begin to form. splice4.jpg Another view of the knot. splice5.jpg Cut the ends of the wires so they are not sticking out more than 1/4". 1/8" is better! Just don't cut the ends so close that the knot could slip. Now that the knot is formed and pulling tight, you are ready to put the string in the piano. Attach the loop to the hitch pin, thread it through the bridge pins, up to the upper bridge pin (or agraffe), up to the = tuning pin. Measure the length you need to make 3 turns around the tuning pin, and install the string. As you increase tension on the string, the knot will pull tighter and tighter. Voila! Hope this is helpful! David Vanderhoofven Joplin, MO At 11:20 PM 4/7/2005, you wrote: >Do any of you have pics of a splice step by step? >Thanks! >Matthew _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: HYPERLINK "https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/d2/9c/16/57/attachment.htm ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01C53C5F.9FF4FE00-- ---------------------- multipart/related attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 2112 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/51/51/b0/c4/attachment.jpe ---------------------- multipart/related attachment--
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