refinishing frustrations

FRANCES HELMS fhelms@topeka.k12.ks.us
Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:28:55 -0500


Just want to mention that when using  strippers with wax make sure temperature does not exceed 90 degrees.  If it does so, the wax tends to melt into the pores, causing yet another problem.
Fran Helms,
Topeka, KS

>>> <pianolac@bestweb.net> 04/28/05 1:14 AM >>>
With all due respect to Chris and Mark, the size of one's shop should not
dictate whether you use an environmentally responsible, efficient,
effective and non-toxic material for stripping the finish off of pianos.

There aren't any "waterbased" strippers.  There are various water soluble
strippers that use relatively benign chemicals to do the stripping.  Dyna 2
is essentially a hyper-soap.  It wets the old coating to the bare wood, it
does it in one application, and because of that fact, it is the least
expnesive way to strip a piano.  The highest cost input for this job is
labor.  If you can save one or two applications of stripper, you're saving
a lot of time and money.

There are side benefits of using a stripper like Dyna 2.  There's no wax in
it, yet it forms an exterior shell that prevents evaporation.  If you fail
to remove all the wax from a methylene chloride stripper, you leave
yourself open to craters and fisheyes.  Dyna 2 is also an effective
silicone emulsifier, so it grabs furniture polish that penetrates into the
pores.  Doesn't always get all of it, but since I've been using it, I
haven't had one instance of silicone contaminated wood.

I also like the idea of not burning my hands and arms and not spewing forth
toxic fumes in the air, and toxic waste into our environment.

Arthur Grudko
www.pianolac.com 


>Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:The methylene chloride (I think
that's right) type with the layer of wax that forms to minimize
evaporation?
> 
>Yep.  Works in 15-20 minutes.  About 2 1/2 gal. to strip a typical 5ft.7"
grand.  A good fit for small shops that don't have room to lay out all of
their parts for the several hours/overnight time frame required by the
water-based strippers.  Yea, it's nasty - so precautions are in order.  I
still prefer it to the water-based strippers for efficiency in my shop. 
And remember, I am a LONG-TIME water-base finisher, and do try to avoid the
stronger solvents when there are  alternatives that work well with my
workplace.  
> 
>Mark Potter
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