Bridge pin angle

Don pianotuna@yahoo.com
Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:44:35


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Hi Ron,

Here are a couple of photos of the offending pin taken from 180 degrees
apart. Not sure they are small enough to come directly through.

At 03:46 PM 4/29/2005 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Or just cutting the notch a bit  farther back. There's no performance
> >
> > reason I
> >
> >>can see that the notch edge has to exactly bisect the pin.
> >
>
>> Is this just another old wives tale then? I was under the impression that
>> this would lead to a different vertical and horizontal termination--which
>> would cause the string to ring at 2 discreet frequencies at the same time.
>> I know of at least one 9 foot where this *is* the case in a low bass string
>> that is poorly notched. Perhaps what I am hearing is nothing to do with the
>> notch?
>
>That's what I was told too, from when I started back when, to the 
>present day. The problem is, that just doesn't hold up to even 
>casual inspection. Go look at new pianos in the exhibition hall at 
>the convention this year. You'll see some that have notches cut back 
>so far the bridge pin in entirely in the notch cut - but the strings 
>aren't wild. That doesn't fit the explanation. Why? The notch looks 
>exactly right, but the false beat is still there. That doesn't fit 
>the explanation. Why? Now you find wild strings in the field, and 
>stop the false beat temporarily by back bracing the pin with a 
>screwdriver. The relationship between the notch and the pin didn't 
>change, but the beat stopped. That doesn't fit the explanation. Why? 
>Now you try to move a string up a bridge pin and discover how 
>difficult it is to do that. To get the false beat by the old 
>explanation, the string would have to slither up and down the string 
>easily. It doesn't. That doesn't fit the explanation. Why? Seating a 
>string sometimes clears up a false beat temporarily. Seating the 
>string didn't change the relationship between the notch and the pin, 
>so why did the beat stop? That doesn't fit the old explanation. Why? 
>Now go back and read the 43,000 words written on the "why" in the 
>last week or so (with plenty more of the same for some years back), 
>and take another look at that early explanation of false beats. Then 
>ask yourself ... why?
>
>I doubt if what you're hearing in that string has much of anything 
>to do with the notch. Without seeing and hearing it, I'd be more 
>inclined to suspect a longitudinal first. What have you tried in the 
>way of diagnostics?
>
>Ron N
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Regards,
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