working with etd's and the customers' la-di-da

Terry terry@farrellpiano.com
Sat, 5 Feb 2005 17:08:33 -0500


David, have you tried Ron Koval's custom style profiles on the VT? If you
haven't, you will enjoy them. If you have, I'm surprised to hear your
comments.

Terry Farrell


> I found that in spite of the Verituner hearing all partials, the
> decisions it made on some notes (not to mention style selections)
> periodically needed correction.  Even if the machine hears everything,
> it still must make a decision on where to put the note.  To a certain
> degree, that decision is not made by the machine but by the programmer.
> The style settings in the VT indicate which coincident partials will be
> favored and to what degree in deciding how wide to make the octaves.
> While these styles can be tweaked for different pianos the question will
> always arise as to whether the style you have chosen is a perfect fit
> for the piano.  While hearing all partials might increase accuracy due
> to the greater amount of information available, it is not foolproof.
> The ear must ultimately be the final arbiter.
>
> David Love
> davidlovepianos@comcast.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
> Behalf Of Don
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 2:16 PM
> To: Pianotech
> Subject: Re: working with etd's and the customers' la-di-da
>
> Hi André,
>
> I always thought the human ear *automatically* heard all the partials at
> once. In fact that's why I believe that even the verituner is subject to
> the "taste" of the tuner. I am aware you can choose "styles" with etd's,
> and that there is a lot of flexibility--but just like your wonderful
> food...the human has to eat it. :)
>
> This is also why I prefer "human unisons" to "machine unisons" (though I
> might change my mind if I had a verituner to play with). Tunelab
> products
> do a display of all partials as well, but again I've not used that
> product.
>
> At 08:20 PM 05/02/2005 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> >I always explain that my miracle machine listens to 8 partials at the
> same
> >time and is able to process those 8 partials far better than most piano
> >tuners ever were able to (have they ever been able to hear more than 3
> or 4
> >partilas?).
> >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 03/02/2005
>
> Regards,
> Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
> Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat
>
> mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca
> http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/
>
> 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK, S4S 5G7
> 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.5 - Release Date: 03/02/2005
>
> _______________________________________________
> pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives



This PTG archive page provided courtesy of Moy Piano Service, LLC