back problems

[Joe And Penny Goss]

Ah Missed that part.
Joe Goss RPT
Mother Goose Tools
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Newell" <gnewell@ameritech.net>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: back problems


> Joe,
>          I understand and agree with your example except that I'm not so
> sure that my circumstance fits it. If it is keeping the joint apart why am
> I able to close it with the clamp but not the screws/bolts? I'm thinking
> that I just don't have a screw/bolt in the right place to exert pressure
> where it's needed. That's why I'm wondering if drilling into a clear spot
> in the plate raised edge is a wise idea. It would certainly be in the
right
> place to exert pressure where it is needed then. There is no other place
to
> drill without tuning pin obstruction.
>
> best,
> Greg
>
>
>
>
> At 04:59 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote:
> >Hi Greg,
> >The glue WILL keep the crack from closing. Think of the olf India guy
> >walking or sleeping on a bed of nails.
> >Joe Goss RPT
> >Mother Goose Tools
> >imatunr@srvinet.com
> >www.mothergoosetools.com
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Greg Newell" <gnewell@ameritech.net>
> >To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:55 PM
> >Subject: Re: back problems
> >
> >
> > > Susan,
> > >          Thanks for the response! I'm not sure what to think about
your
> > > glue fragment theory. It seems that the fragments would simply crush
into
> > > to wood as the new washers on the back did. Still, I'm not sure. That
glue
> > > does dry / cure pretty dog gone hard. If the wood were dense enough I
> > > suppose it could be holding the joint apart. OTOH I am able to close
the
> > > gap with a "C" clamp, I just can't keep it closed with the position of
the
> > > bolts. Perhaps a light misting of water and some gorilla glue?
> > >
> > > best,
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 01:06 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote:
> > > >Hi, Greg
> > > >
> > > >I'm guessing here -- I leave this kind of major surgery to other
folks --
> > > >but I wonder if it could be hung up on fragments of your hide glue
which
> > > >cracked off when the joint failed? Maybe if you inserted some steam
or
> > > >very hot water, and then tried to pull it tight?
> > > >
> > > >Failing that, if you have real confidence in the security of your
bolts,
> > > >perhaps you could lay  a bead of slow-set epoxy along the crack, and
then
> > > >thin it down with a heat gun until it got sucked into the seam,
repeating
> > > >until it is filled. It doesn't look like a gaping chasm, thank
heavens.
> > > >
> > > >Susan
> > > >
> > > >At 10:49 PM 6/20/2005 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >>Greetings list members,
> > > >>         I can't believe we're just back from the National
convention
> >and
> > > >> already I'm faced with a weird problem. I'm attempting to re-glue
the
> > > >> back to pin block glue joint on an old S&S console. I slathered the
> >glue
> > > >> in (hot hide) and left it in about a week prior to leaving for the
> > > >> convention. The day before I left I took off the clamps and tried
to
> > > >> raise the tension back up. (Yes, I let it down first).  When I was
> > > >> reapplying tension from the treble down I got to the low tenor and
all
> > > >> seemed fine. As I progressed into the bass region I started hearing
> > > >> funny sounds and then it let go right where I had glued it. Before
> > > >> catching my airplane I ordered 6" flat head 5/16" machine screws
from
> > > >> McMaster - Carr in order to drill and bolt all the way through and
put
> > > >> washers and nuts out the back side. I just finished doing that and
> >can't
> > > >> seem to close the gap all the way. The pictures in the attachment
are
> > > >> what it looks like now. Any thoughts? Would it be completely wrong
to
> > > >> drill a new hole in the raised trim of the plate? Just one would
draw
> >it
> > > >> together I'd bet but it seems a little dicey to drill there.
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks,
> > > >>Greg
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Greg Newell
> > > >>Greg's piano Forté
> > > >>mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net
> > > >>
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