Table saw recommendations?

rjwag@pacifier.com rjwag@pacifier.com
Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:05:11 -0700 (PDT)


Hi all,

While I'm not a RPT, I'm on this site in respect for my brother Richard
Wagner, a life-long technician and examiner in the Pacific Northwest, and
the inventor of the Acrylikey II ivory key repair system.  Richard sadly
passed away in November; I carry on his business at his request. We donate
all profits in his name to charity.

I do have significant experience with woodworking machinery and applaud
your concerns with safety.

A dado and hold down system is definitely the way to go.

My only addition--which applies to all fine machining--is to make roughing
passes so as not to overload the saw/cutter, but to leave the last bit for
a final finishing pass.  Heavy cutting, despite the best hold downs, will
likely chatter. Taking the last cut while removing only a little material
will leave a much better final finish.

Best of luck, Sarah.  And thanks for the chance to weigh in.

Mike Wagner
www.wagner-technical.com
Home of the Acrylikey II Ivory Repair System.

> Sarah:
> If I understand your needs correctly, and I had a table saw, I would use a
> dado blade set.
> This is a multi-stack set of blades to make the proper width of the slot,
> and the blade height for the depth.
> Run the stock thru lengthwise using the table saw fence and a ' stock hold
> down guide".
> Possibly one pass, or possibly two passes.
> For anyone who loves woodworking, and you can get a show on TV called "
> New
> Yankee Workshop" with a person called Norm Abrams.........this guy is a
> MASTER CRAFTSMAN and you can learn all kinds of tricks watching that show.
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Sarah Fox <sarah@graphic-fusion.com>
>> To: <staff@smithpiano.com>; Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
>> Date: 6/23/2005 7:25:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: Table saw recommendations?
>>
>> Hi Brad,
>>
>> Excellent advice!  Too bad I can't even begin to afford the saws you've
>> suggested.  :-(  I might upgrade with aftermarket add-ons later, if
>> needs
>> arise.
>>
>> Your emphasis on jigs leads me to post a question to you (or to anyone
> else
>> who cares to comment):  I have in mind a jig for cutting a 5/16" wide x
>> ~3/8" deep rectangular slot through the length of a 1x2 piece of poplar
>> stock.  I have a choice of doing it with a jig on a router (slowly, with
>> lots of heat and noise) or doing three passes through a jig on the table
>> saw.  I've never used a table saw to cut grooves.  Am I asking for
> trouble
>> with regard to kickback?  I'm thinking that I'll avoid trouble by having
> a
>> simple jig that holds the workpiece securely against the table and fence
>> (while also covering the blade).  However I do this, I want to do it the
>> best way, because I'll (hopefully) be cutting LOTS of stock this way.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Peace,
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brad Smith" <staff@smithpiano.com>
>> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:19 AM
>> Subject: RE: Table saw recommendations?
>>
>>
>> > Hi Sarah,
>> > My two cents...  or, my $1400...
>> > I went through the process a few months back after having destroyed
>> > my direct-drive table saw.
>> > I chose Delta Unisaw, with extension table and mobile base for same.
>> > The mobile base was 'free' with a coupon included in the purchase.
>> > http://www.deltawoodworking.com/index.asp?e=136&p=4737
>> > Delta has deals like this currently for all the X5 tools. It is 3HP,
> cuts
>> > thru the maple like butter. You can go to 5HP, if your needs require.
>> > Researching, I found so much good news about the Biesmeyer fence,
>> > that I added it to my 'must have' criteria.
>> > http://www.deltawoodworking.com/index.asp?e=139&p=801
>> > The fence makes the cuts jointer quality, EXACTLY where you want
>> > them. The blade tilts to the left. I think it would accomodate a 12"
>> > blade, not sure, check first.
>> > Had to rewire the shop for 220V, but once you get to the larger saws,
>> > most require it. I just got a nice dado set from Home Depot.
>> > Diablo Stack Dado Saw Blade Set Model DD208
>> >
>> > It's more saw than I currently need, but I plan to move into more
>> > woodworking stuff as I gracefully age.
>> > My new motto is: "Buy it right, and buy it once".
>> > Great tools pay for themselves, and you'll rarely regret getting the
>> > 'good stuff'.
>> >
>> >>From the videos below, I learned about making customized throat
>> > plates for the various dado cuts; general woodworking and machine
> safety.
>> > It's amazing what can be done with home made jigs and post-it note
>> > shims. Mastering Woodworking Machines (Taunton Press) Mark
>> > Duginske, Andrew Schultz
>> > http://www.cambiumbooks.com/books/woodworking_machines/0-942391-98-5/
>> > Mark Duginske has some good stuff on using the bandsaw for tenons,
>> > with homemade fence, and paper shims to 'dial in' the thickness. He
>> > does some dovetail joinery this way, that is really excellent.
>> > DVD Mastering Your Table Saw (Taunton Press) Kelly Mehler
>> > http://www.cambiumbooks.com/books/video-and-dvd/B0001KNH4K/
>> > Great stuff on jigs, sliding miter box, cross cutting, safety, large
> piece
>> > work, odd shape work in sliding jigs, etc. He makes some jigs using
>> > plexiglass, which function as miter box, and blade guard.
>> > After viewing these, I'm more skeptical about buying expensive add-on
>> > gadgets. (That's saying a lot, since I am a serious tool junkie). To
> take
>> > advantage of a full size cabinet saw and extension table, you
>> definitely
>> > need shop space. I'm using an old lightweight door as a table top for
>> > the saw, when not in use. Then, I have positions and wall jigs to move
>> > the table top for use as outfeed support. I actually enjoy the
>> challenge
>> > of making a small shop space function.
>> > Dust collection gets most of it conveniently through the port in back
> of
>> > the
>> > saw. Adding dust collection above the blade is my next step. In the
> Kelly
>> > Mehler video, he uses a blade guard that extends out over the blade,
>> for
>> > cuts that require removal of the original guard.
>> > Just for fun, you might also check out: http://www.sawstop.com/
>> > They have an ingenius system that would save your fingers, should you
>> > momentarily lose focus while cutting.
>> > Another good motto:
>> > "NEVER TAKE YOUR EYES OFF A MOVING BLADE"
>> > Good luck with your purchase!
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Brad Smith, RPT
>> > www.smithpiano.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Sarah Fox [mailto:sarah@graphic-fusion.com]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:38 PM
>> > To: Pianotech
>> > Subject: Table saw recommendations?
>> >
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