This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Oh I've got pretty thick skin. I actually saved that post - I felt like = maybe it was a statement that I've finally arrived! I had never been = accused of that before! I've never thought anything is below me, I still = work on spinets - but there are definitely things that I am finding less = satisfying (i.e. spinets and band-aiding-to-death old worn-out = uprights). Regarding old upright, my thoughts are really less about patching up a = soundboard and more about the general condition of the entire beast. = What good is it going to do to improve a soundboard on one of these = great-a-hundred-years-ago uprights when the hammers are nubs and don't = all hit the right strings, all the action centers are loose, the bridge = is cracked, the hammer butts are worn through, the pinblock is shot, the = keys are all wiggley, action parts fly off while tuning, strings don't = render worth a hoot, it's plagued with false beats, etc. The soundboard = is the least of that piano's problems. Who cares if it has lost its = crown? Replacing keytops and rebushing keys would likely do more to = improve most old uprights than farting around with the soundboard - but = even then, you still have all the other things. Sorry to say, but I = often find myself recommending to old upright owners that they would be = much better off finding a (cough-choke) "nice" 20-year-old Kimball = console for $500 or $600 than trying to patch up the old upright. The = quality old upright, IMHO, simply does not need $500 worth of band-aids, = it needs $20K of remanufacturing. And as far as "I think Terry's statement was informative of his position = on the subject, how else to express it?" goes - that cuts to the heart = of the matter - how else to express it? I really think folks need to = lighten up a bit. Folks state opinions on this list. They share the = approach they take to address various situations. It doesn't mean they = are saying that any other approach is bad. We just had a thread about = action center cloth - some like the Renner pre-glued stuff - someone = posted that the plain cloth works well. Is that guy stupid because he = doesn't use the same cloth as me? I don't think so. Do I think it is = ridiculous to take the time to put two dabs of glue on the cloth for = each flange? Well, actually I do think it's ridiculous - but that's just = me - at the same time, I also know that guy may even do it that way and = still be faster than me and his bushings are great. Nothing wrong with = ten techs doing something ten different ways. I guess that's what I'm = trying to say here - when you read someone's statement about how they do = something or what they would do or not do, just realize that most of the = time that's all they are saying - a statement about what they do - they = are not (usually) saying that you shouldn't do it some other way! As far as participating on this list goes - I'll have to get a whole lot = smarter than I am now to ever get offended. When someone suggests that = something I said was stupid or wrong or bad, I figure they are probably = right (.....not!). So how could I get upset? I think I can understand = how someone with a lot of knowledge and experience (obviously, not me) = can get frustrated with people constantly suggesting that their whole = approach to piano work is baseless. As one researches and experiments = and observes over many years, they really can't avoid forming some = pretty firm opinions on how things work and what works and what doesn't. = And sure, they will tend to state maybe somewhat forcefully what their = opinions are (and maybe even state it as fact - so what? - it is to them = - hey, some people even make the bold statement that the theory of = evolution is a fact!). But why some find the need to challenge these = opinions, I don't know. If a response is to better understand the = subject matter, that is one thing, but it seems it is sometimes to = simply tell the other person they are wrong - and such an approach can = only end up being divisive and argumentative. Enough gibberish for now. Terry Farrell > I'm watching this thread with interest because of egos not subject. = Thump, > go for it! Let us know, I remember John Block, met him in Denver, with = his > valve springs. > Trent, "tautology" come on! I think Terry's statement was informative = of his > position on the subject, how else to express it? > Terry, Please stay on this list. > I'll shutup now. > Respectfully to All, > Fenton Murray, RPT > www.MurraysPianoTuning.com >=20 > > Thanks Terry, I certainly don't mind your considering > > this idea "beneath you........SNIP ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/78/df/40/19/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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