---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment The only way some grands could be tuned with a T hammer is to bend the pin!!..... unless you have a bionic arm!!!=0D =0D Robin=0D South Australia=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D -------Original Message-------=0D =0D From: Pianotech=0D Date: 03/20/05 10:18:40=0D To: William R. Monroe=0D Cc: pianotech@ptg.org=0D Subject: Re: Impact Tuning Lever=0D =0D Hello William and List=0D As a left handed tuner I find it very easy to control the lever on an=0D upright. I use the fingers of my left hand against the top of the pin blo= ck,=0D and the lever in the thumb joint, to help inch up the lever. I go for the= =0D ten o'clock position. In grands I always use a "T" hammer. But I haven't = one=0D of those "impact hammers". Can't get them here. The principle sounds=0D interesting though.=0D Regards=0D Michael G.(UK)=0D ----- Original Message -----=0D From: "William R. Monroe" <pianotech@a440piano.net>=0D To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>=0D Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:32 PM=0D Subject: Re: Impact Tuning Lever=0D =0D =0D > Alan,=0D >=0D > I do think ambidextrous tuning is a good practice, for many reasons. T= hat=0D > said, however, I must respectfully say that I think all any technician=0D > needs=0D > is properly developed technique. Tuning right or left handed should ma= ke=0D > no=0D > difference so long as the technician compensates for the physics of the= =0D > hammer position, movement, etc.=0D >=0D > Sometimes, this is a conscious process; e.g. while tuning right handed = on=0D > a=0D > vertical, we understand that pulling the pin down a bit will result in = a=0D > (relatively) higher pitch when released - all other things being equal = -=0D > so=0D > we compensate by not pulling above pitch as much prior to setting. Thi= s=0D > is=0D > a bit oversimplified, but I think you get the idea. I would expect tha= t=0D > mostly it is subconscious. Whichever hand anyone uses to tune is=0D > irrelevant. It is my position that knowing how the piano responds to y= our=0D > particular tuning technique IS relevant and is what makes for a good=0D > tuning.=0D > An ambidextrous technician should be equally capable of tuning grands o= r=0D > uprights with either hand, in my opinion.=0D >=0D > William R. Monroe=0D >=0D >=0D > ----- Original Message -----=0D > From: "Alan Forsyth" <alanforsyth@fortune4.fsnet.co.uk>=0D > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>=0D > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 1:35 PM=0D > Subject: Re: Impact Tuning Lever=0D >=0D >=0D > " I also like your idea of using pitch raises to get used to left-hande= d=0D > work. I don't really have the time to try and fine-tune with my left ju= st=0D > yet.=0D > Good news!=0D > -holly" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=0D >=0D >=0D > Don't know about you guys but we were taught to be ambidextrous from da= y=0D > one. Left handed for uprights and right handed for grands. The main ide= a=0D > is=0D > that it automatically compensates for tuning pin setting. When using yo= ur=0D > left arm to tune an upright, the pin would tend to move upwards (becaus= e=0D > you=0D > would be pushing up from underneath) and then settle back down. If you=0D > used=0D > your right arm, you would tend to pull down on the pin. Visa versa with= =0D > grands.=0D >=0D > AF=0D > ----- Original Message -----=0D > From: ilex cameron ross=0D > To: Pianotech=0D > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 2:44 PM=0D > Subject: RE: Impact Tuning Lever=0D >=0D >=0D > Thanks for sharing, Terry - this is really good to hear. I'm only in m= y=0D > early 30s and due to a combination of tuning and a really really stupid= =0D > fall=0D > a couple of years ago, I have pretty consistent problems with my tuning= =0D > wrist. Not to mention the weekly chiro visits for just general back and= =0D > shoulder crap. Anymore I absolutely have to wear a wrist brace when=0D > tuning,=0D > and I have been pondering the investment of an impact lever. I also lik= e=0D > your idea of using pitch raises to get used to left-handed work. I don'= t=0D > really have the time to try and fine-tune with my left just yet.=0D > Good news!=0D > -holly=0D > -----Original Message-----=0D > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On= =0D > Behalf Of Terry=0D > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 5:54 AM=0D > To: pianotech@ptg.org=0D > Subject: Impact Tuning Lever=0D >=0D >=0D > A while ago I posted questions regarding purchase of an impact tunin= g=0D > lever. I've been using it for a few months now and just thought I would= =0D > report in.=0D >=0D > For a couple years now I have been rastling with some kind of=0D > torn/strained muscle/tendon in my shoulder (thanks to a Boston studio &= a=0D > 1098 on the same day) and tendonitis in the elbow - both in my tuning a= rm.=0D > It had gotten to the point where I had walked away from several service= =0D > appointments because I knew tuning that piano would put me out of work = for=0D > some weeks.=0D >=0D > I've been using the impact lever for pitch raises on all vertical=0D > pianos=0D > unless they have very low-torque tuning pins. I use my trusty=0D > Renner/Bowman=0D > lever for tuning verticals and everything on grands. I pitch-raised=0D > Kimball=0D > and Baldwin consoles yesterday - both were raised more than 100 cents -= =0D > they=0D > both got two pitch-raise passes and then a tuning pass. Both these pian= os=0D > had excessively tight tuning pins - easily around 200+ in-lbs. I used t= he=0D > impact lever for these four pitch-raise passes and I have no arm pain=0D > today=0D > at all. The impact lever seems to have saved me!=0D >=0D > I impact the bass with my left hand and the rest of the scale with m= y=0D > right - I'm trying to train myself to become ambidextrous with the impa= ct=0D > lever - again, in case I wreck an arm at some point I could keep tuning= =2E I=0D > can see that it will take quite a bit of practice to become good at fin= e=0D > tuning with the impact lever, but I think using it for all vertical pit= ch=0D > raises will eventually get me to the point where I can start attempting= =0D > using the impact lever for fine tuning - I would like to get to the poi= nt=0D > where I can use it for all vertical tuning.=0D >=0D > Bottom line: the impact lever has saved my arm, avoided interruption= s=0D > in=0D > income, and will likely extend my tuning career (unless soundboard=0D > manufacturing can save me from the spinet devils!). I am very happy I h= ave=0D > started using this great tool!=0D >=0D > Terry Farrell=0D >=0D >=0D >=0D =0D =0D _______________________________________________=0D pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/99/cc/59/bb/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
This PTG archive page provided courtesy of Moy Piano Service, LLC