Piano Tuners' Association

David Ilvedson ilvey@sbcglobal.net
Fri, 7 Oct 2005 20:41:02 -0700


My mistake...we have talked about straight strung pianos on occasion...sorry!  

David I.





----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>
To: pianotech@ptg.org
Received: 10/7/2005 6:08:32 PM
Subject: RE: Piano Tuners' Association


>SORRY...for the repost but I forgot to add my name!

>Michael,

>There are plenty of tuners in the USA who think PTG is "cliquey".    Perhaps you don't 
>understand the chip tuning from our angle...most of us don't bring pianos up a little at a 
>time.   Bring it up and bring it up again...however many times it takes...US tuners, in 
>general, don't believe in a little at time is beneficial in the least bit....so you're English 
>training is showing...;-]   NOT THAT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH 
>THAT>>>>imho.    

>I think we can get an idea of what PTA's work life is like by their website.   
>Predominately on the first page is a definition of straight-strung vs. overstrung and 
>overdampers vs. underdampers.   I don't think anywhere else in the world is that a front 
>page item.   I can't really remember it being discussed.  My post about PTA discussing 
>nothing but birdcages seems about right.   You would think that they wouldn't have 
>anymore birdcages in England.   I thought they sent them all to us to dispose of....;-]

>David Ilvedson, RPT


>----- Original message ----------------------------------------
>From: "Michael Gamble" <michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk>
>To: pianotuna@yahoo.com, Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
>Received: 10/7/2005 2:07:13 PM
>Subject: RE: Piano Tuners' Association


>>I agree, Don. I knew they existed many years ago when they tried to get me
>>to join them. Even then I could think up no reason to do so - they were (and
>>presumably still are) so "cliquey". Chipping up a piano doesn't worry me one
>>iota - I did it to my S&S 'A' when I re-strung it just last month. About
>>fifteen years ago I voluntarily took up a place on a "hammer hanging course"
>>at Heckschers in London - one of a series of courses they (Heckschers) were
>>promoting and was the only independent tech there. The series,
>>unfortunately, died the death. The PTA made much of this course in their
>>newsletter, though they had, so far as I know, no hand in its preparation.
>>It was my presence that caused them to send me this news-letter and invite
>>me to join the PTA. I have no regrets....
>>Regards from a dark Downland Village
>>Michael G.(UK)

>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Don [mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com] 
>>Sent: 07 October 2005 17:00
>>To: Michael Gamble
>>Subject: RE: Piano Tuners' Association

>>Hi Michael,

>>I agree with you--however they can be as "exclusive"
>>as they wish. If you are a member--take it up with
>>them. If not--what the heck--let them sink (or swim).

>>I understand that part of the "test" there is doing a
>>"chip tuning" which 99% of all tuners in North America
>>would never do i.e. there would be darn few members!

>>--- Michael Gamble <michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk>
>>wrote:

>>> Don - That sounds like the "Tech Exclusion Zone"!
>>> To what pupose? And who benefits?
>>> Regards from Sunny Sussex
>>> Michael G.(UK)
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Don [mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com] 
>>> Sent: 07 October 2005 06:32
>>> To: Pianotech
>>> Subject: RE: Piano Tuners' Association
>>> 
>>> Hi Michael,
>>> 
>>> I suppose you have heard of PTG-L as well--but you
>>> can't join it--unless
>>> you are a member of PTG. It was clear from the
>>> comments about the UK
>>> listserv that it is "members only".
>>> 
>>> At 07:56 AM 10/7/2005 +0100, you wrote:
>>> >        I agree Avery. There's just this
>>> statement out of the blue.
>>> >The Piano Tuner's Association (of Great
>>> Britain?) claim to have an
>>> >equivalent of the List. I have never come across it
>>> or even been guided
>>> >gently towards it as I was towards the List. I did
>>> not know it existed. Now
>>> >we hear it is extant.. But that's all. 
>>> Regards  Michael G.(UK)
>>> >            From: Avery Todd
>>> [mailto:avery1@houston.rr.com] 
>>> > Sent: 06 October 2005 22:24
>>> > To: Pianotech
>>> > Subject: Re: Piano Tuners' Association      
>>> ?????? 
>>> > 
>>> > Avery 
>>> > 
>>> > At 12:42 PM 10/6/05, you wrote:
>>> > 
>>> >   Where is the PTA version of Pianotech then??
>>> > 
>>> > Ric       No virus found in this incoming message.
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>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
>>> Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat
>>> 
>>> mailto:pianotuna@yahoo.com
>>> http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/
>>> 
>>> 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK, S4S 5G7
>>> 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 


>>Regards,
>>Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
>>3004 Grant Rd, Regina, SK, S4S 5G7
>>Tuner for the Saskatchewan Centre of the Arts

>>http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/


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