C=256 hz? Heads up? Not bloody likely

Don pianotuna@yahoo.com
Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:40:49


Hi,

A432 =~ -32 cents not -10

At 09:21 AM 10/18/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>David,
>
>One would have to walk a fine line when disparaging an exciting idea 
>that a customer has latched on to. ;-)  Acknowledging the vagaries of 
>history and that politics are never really "clean" and then moving on 
>to practical impacts would make sense.  One is that a lot of wind 
>instruments need modification for such a pitch.  The other is about 
>ear-training and being able to comfortably perform in the majority of 
>venues.  Etc. ...
>
>My question has more to do with piano design.  Say you have a 
>customer who insists on a ~10 cent low tuning.  How does scale design 
>impact this?  Can you get a reasonably resonant piano out of this 
>without re-scaling?
>
>Obviously beat rates used for aural tuning would be slower, you would 
>be looking for progression rather than certain rates.  An ETD would 
>probably be the avenue of choice for the "odd" one that comes our way.
>
>Any other ideas.
>
>I think I can head this one off from becoming a reality on an 
>instrument, or at least turn it into an expensive experiment. :-D
>
>Andrew
>
>
>At 08:35 AM 10/18/2005, you wrote:
>>Andrew -
>>At least Mr. LaR---che's imprimatur is relatively visible in this 
>>endeavor, as opposed to the unseen hand in many others. I wonder if 
>>you could wade through the Schiller site...no don't stop just at 
>>tuning, run through Mr. LaR---che's economic, scientific, and 
>>political theories as well...and then get back to us.   Reading LaR 
>>can, I suppose, provide hours of speculative amusement, trying to 
>>separate fact from raving.  I think of it as playing at the edge of 
>>a black hole.  With this group as with Scientologists, I remain 
>>relatively paranoid.  It's like the Harry Potter stories.  They 
>>should simply be referred to as "you know who"s.  I would not want 
>>to see any extended discussion of this man's ideas on this list, 
>>public as it is, unless someone with impeccable credentials took the 
>>time to de-mythify the extensive claims.   The truth is, the history 
>>of tuning has always been a struggle, and political, and subjective, 
>>if not arbitrary.
>>
>>As far as a response to a request for such tuning, the issues as 
>>they affect structure, tone and stability, should be discussed 
>>totally apart from any connection to these tuning theories.  It 
>>makes no difference what the origination of the request might be.
>>
>>David Skolnik
>>
>>
>>
>>At 07:21 AM 10/18/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>>>Fellow tuners,
>>>I had this sent me: http://www.schillerinstitute.org/music/revolution.html
>>>
>>>We've probably been aware of this for some time.  Question is, has 
>>>anyone been impacted by this, especially in requests for 
>>>historic/"sensible" tunings pitches?
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>
>>and
>>>Wouldn't moving a piano 10 hz lower to circa A4=430 hz result in a 
>>>loss of resonant power?  It seems to me that you would have to 
>>>re-scale a piano to the target pitch if you chose to lower it like 
>>>that.  What would be your response to such a request?
>>>
>>>Andrew
>>
>>
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Regards,
Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
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