Barbara, OK, on this popular university make with the agraffes that don't have level holes, I did get them as close as possible but not perfect. I had used a strate-mate to lift all the strings and won't use it at agraffes anymore. On several of those durned agraffes I wonder if level is possible. It would be nice not to have apostrophes... Andrew At 08:37 PM 10/19/2005, you wrote: >Andrew, Ric, > >What it is about for me, is to be able to get a good voicing that includes >the una corda. > >Who is indiscriminately lifting? What would be the purpose in that? My aim >is to get the things as level as possible. Of course, if a string doesn't >move to where I want using a light pull, I'll try harder. It works--most >of the time, that is. But, I don't find it easy. Perhaps a hard pull for >some is a lighter for others? Is that so unbelievable? > >OK, Phil, maybe it is time to join the gym....and those who wrote me >privately complaining of the same thing--I'll see you there. ;-) > >Barbara Richmond, RPT > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew and Rebeca Anderson" ><anrebe@sbcglobal.net> >To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> >Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 7:01 PM >Subject: Re: Remedial string leveling > > >>Ric, Barbara, >>I was wondering about this too. I routinely lift the strings with the >>strate-mate on both sides of the capo. Gets rid of a lot of noise. But >>pulling really hard seems to be more about noise than leveling. If you >>are pulling hard, have you already lifted the strings and got some higher >>than others? >> >>At some point, lifting/leveling at the capo is enough and the problem is >>about the condition of the termination. Ie. getting under there with a >>dremel and stone, or a file (saintly patience required) and getting rid of >>cut-up material. >> >>Is this what it is about? >> >>I find that some agraffes on a popular make don't have holes all nicely >>lined up in a row. Real nuisance for leveling to make a damper perform >>better. In this case it is better to level and not indiscriminately lift. >> >>Andrew >> >> >>At 12:16 PM 10/19/2005, you wrote: >>>Hi Barbara >>> >>>Takk for sist as they say over here ! >>> >>>I read your post with interest and it seemed to me your greatest concern >>>was not getting enough leverage to pull / push up on the strings. If this >>>is the case I would like to hear a discussion about just how much force >>>people are using to accomplish string leveling. I have always used >>>minimal force in doing this job, not wanting to over stress the brass >>>holes in the agraffes, nor cause any undo wear on the capo. As such, I >>>use Joe Gosses version of the string leveling tool (making sure the piano >>>is reasonably level to begin with) and lift only what I absolutely have to >>>on the first pass. I dont do broadband string lifting in the expectation >>>of getting rid of some string noises. Rather I wait to hear what I have >>>and if I need to minimize some string noise then I may try some additional >>>lifting for whatever unisons are affected. >>> >>>btw.. I mention the bit about getting the piano in level first because I >>>watched a fellow use this tool not so long ago and he had gotten all done >>>and started mating hammers to strings and noticed that he had to >>>individually file almost all his hammers so the left side was higher then >>>the other. When I asked him whether he'd leveled his piano first or not >>>he seemed to think it was not necessary ... because the hammers would "of >>>course be automatically tilted with the piano"... grin.. I had to giggle a >>>bit despite myself. >>>Cheers >>>RicB >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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