Ok, This is weird

[Susan Kline]

Perhaps though the symptoms seem the same, the cause is different.

Check the glide bolts - turn them up and see what you get.

Check the Samick to see if the action brackets are *growing*. Do any
hammers block?

If the plate of the Henry F. Miller actually did warp (which seems awfully
strange) you perhaps can still save the piano by taking a jack plane and
removing some of the pinblock in the middle, till the action clears with
the glide bolts set conservatively.

Oh, have FUN ...

Susan

At 07:13 PM 9/16/2005 -0400, Greg wrote:
>Listees,
>         I've never encountered this before and now I've seen it twice in 
> the same week. 2 pianos both from very different manufacturers and from 
> different eras coming in to my neck of the woods from 2 entirely 
> different climates and regions both have the same problem. I went to each 
> of these customers homes and for one reason or another found it necessary 
> to pull the action. (Sorry, both are grands). I found that the pin blocks 
> were touching the center 2 octave action screws and it was impossible to 
> pull the action as we normally due. I was able to pull off the stretcher 
> on one of these and found to my surprise that the pin block was intact. 
> No delaminations at all which is what I expected to find. Instead I found 
> after fishing out one of my most important tools (string) that the plate 
> was warped downward in the center by roughly 3/8" or 10 mm pushing the 
> pin block into the action.
>         If any of you have ever run in to this problem especially in a 
> rebuilding capacity, what if anything have you done about it? I know of 
> no way to un warp cast iron so I suppose that's out of the question. Is 
> the piano scrap now? Is it possible that the warp happened recently and 
> did not exist at the time of manufacture?
>         FWIW, one of the pianos is a 70yr old (or there abouts) Henry F. 
> Miller grand and the other is a 15-20 yr. old Schumann (Samick product). 
> The first actually has some potential to be a fine instrument if it 
> weren't for the warped plate. The second never was and never will be 
> anything but a P.O.S.P.S.O. Were talking an absolute waste of materials here.
>         I'd love to hear your thoughts so.... fire away!
>
>regards,
>Greg
>
>Greg Newell
>Greg's piano Forté
>mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net
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