Lesson learned.....

[Dean May]

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I almost always wait now for 20-30 minutes before tipping the piano back
up. Since I've started doing this I never have any trouble. Of course I
always use less than 2 ounces as well. I've only encountered one piano
that needed more, and that only in a few spots. 
 
If you pour the glue on excessively you are only asking for trouble. 
 
Dean
Dean May             cell 812.239.3359
PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272
Terre Haute IN  47802
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe And Penny Goss [mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 10:26 AM
To: deanmay@pianorebuilders.com; Pianotech
Subject: Re: Lesson learned.....
 
Hi Dean,
The hardest decision to make is wether to right the piano right away or
leave it over night.
A clue, is how much glue is being taken in in each pin hole. 
A welling up and slight pooling tells me that the piano does not need
bed rest for a day. 
Any pin or area that seems to not pool up is a warning not
to resurect the piano. Also if the piano has no string braid, it is best
to leave the piano prone.
Unless you use the kicker.
Be sure to have a small picking tool to clean out the glue under the
string against the termination point. The dampers will give you a clue
as to which ones need to be cleaned.
Joe Goss RPT
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Dean <mailto:deanmay@pianorebuilders.com>  May 
To: 'Pianotech' <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>  
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: Lesson learned.....
 
OOOOPS! 
 
If you are at all worried about there being excess CA glue, just give a
light misting of accelerator over the pins and wait a minute before
tipping the piano back up. 
 
Dean
Dean May             cell 812.239.3359
PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272
Terre Haute IN  47802
 
-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Kurta
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 6:59 PM
To: Pianotech; Rodney Gorzka; Paul Simkin; Paul Kupelian; Nick Smith;
Mike Kurta; Michelle Stranges; Loren Miller; Ken Williams; John
Harrington; Joel Levine; Joe Karwacki; Gary Sylvester; Fred Scoles; Ed
Mastin; Bob Lee; Art Smith; Al Grenning; Tom Moonan
Subject: Lesson learned.....
 
    I made a boo-boo today and I'm posting this so no one else should
make the same mistake. 
    1.  Tilted a small spinet on its back for CA glue application to the
loose pins.
     2.  Applied CA without incident.  A second application followed as
most were soaked up by the pin bushings.  
    3.  Righted piano and began tuning, here's where it gets good.....
    4.  Found several dampers frozen to strings, and several strings
sound dead with no sustain.
    5.  Finally realize that not all the CA was absorbed into the
pinblock, but enough stayed on the surface to run down the strings when
I tilted the piano back up to normal, coating the strings and soaking
into the dampers.
    6.  Going back Monday to fix it.   The lesson here:  Check to see
how much liquid is still sitting on the plate before uprighting the
piano.
 
    DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU !!
    Mike Kurta
 
    

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