temperaments - choosing ? stretched ? not stretched ?

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I'm curious, speaking of hight notes on the piano.  Is that a good sign that 
a tuning is a good tuning when the piano has that bright clear ring sound in 
the trebble?  I tuned a spinit last week that sounded louder according to 
one of the volunteers at the nursing home where I tuned.  In fact, I have a 
customer tomorrow who works there and reports that it sounded tinny before, 
but I mentioned resonants, blame spelling on my wife if incorrect. ;) 
Anyway, my tuning of a grand piano yesterday revealed that the trebble 
sounded louder, brighter and full of a crisp clear ring sound.  Does this 
represent anything in particular?
Marshall
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Maggie Jusiel" <mags@magsmusic.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: temperaments - choosing ? stretched ? not stretched ?


> Hi Philippe,
>
>  I'd like to share some of my experiences with this topic, but would
> first like to point out that I'm still in the learning process.  ;)
>
>  I was learning aurally first, but didn't get lots of the details I
> needed and didn't have good pianos to practice on.  I never got to the
> point where I trusted myself, so I use TuneLab.  However, if I set a
> temperament with TuneLab, then tune the rest of the piano to that, I get
> a very nice tuning with an interesting characteristic...  I will tune
> the upper octaves to what I hear as being "pure" with no beats, but will
> end up with a stretch that is anywhere from 10 cents to 40 cents
> stretched (according to TuneLab).  I believe this to be my ear hearing
> more of the harmonics instead of the fundamental, and lining those up.
> The end result is always satisfying, so I go with it.  The variation
> from piano to piano points out that each piano is different, and putting
> a "stretch" on it should line up harmonics, not just must make the top
> end sharp.  Too much of a stretch is just as bad as not enough.  Even
> two pianos of the same model can end up different depending on how they
> were taken care of over the years.
>
>  I'm not sure if others have this same experience.  I do know that I had
> my hearing tested and had a deficit in the lower registers, but was off
> the charts in what I could hear in the higher registers.  I have a
> feeling most tuners could hear what I am hearing, though.
>
>  Last thing...  I've found that many tuners start out setting equal
> temperament, but end up with a variation of a mean-tone temperament,
> which works just fine.
>
>  ...hope this was helpful...  :D
>
> -mags
>
>
> Maggie Jusiel
> Piano Tuner
> Winds & Strings Teacher
> PO Box 1234
> Athens, WV  24712-1234
> (304)952-8615
> <mags@magsmusic.net>
> <http://www.magsmusic.net>
>
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm currently studying temperaments, and I wonder if a tuner always use a
>> stretched temperament,
>> especially since this doesn't seems quite compatible with the use of
>> electronic tuning devices.
>> (for the not aural tuners...)
>>
>> This question, especially since I've a CD with reference tones for a
>> stretched temperament, which
>> seems quite strange since a stretched temperament should depend on the
>> kind of piano, shouldn't
>> they ? So what ?
>>
>> subsidiary question : as a tuner, do you prefer to use equal temperament 
>> ?
>> or do you prefer to use
>> another one ? (which one) ... Or do your clients often have their 
>> specific
>> requests ? (in this case
>> what are you commonly asked ?)
>>
>> Philippe Errembault
>
>
>
>
>
> Maggie Jusiel
> Piano Tuner
> Winds & Strings Teacher
> PO Box 1234
> Athens, WV  24712-1234
> (304)952-8615
> <mags@magsmusic.net>
> <http://www.magsmusic.net>
>
>
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