frequent tuning - floating pitch? was tuning

timothy ehlen tehlen@uiuc.edu
Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:09:51 -0600


List,

I agree with James about this.  Even though I don't 
currently tune professionally, I feel the urge to weigh in 
on this one, and I ask for your consideration of this 
point.  It seems to me that the public has a natural 
expectation (and rightly so) that a piano will be tuned at 
A440 after a professional tuning, and I question whether 
doing otherwise without explanation is even ethical.  Also, 
I question whether there isn't more interest in the 
convenience of "freebies" rather than "stability" in this 
case.  As an example, would someone pass the RPT tuning exam 
by tuning a whole piano at A339?  I doubt it.

On that point, it seems to me that this practice might be 
violating a regular customer's trust, as someone mentioned 
that "most people won't notice," or something to that 
effect.  It seems to me as a musician and teacher that there 
are essential reasons for students to hear a 440 tuning 
which go beyond the practical considerations of playing with 
other instruments.  As this is the current standard, it does 
have a bearing on pitch memory, some of which is 
psychological and intuitive in one's listening and playing.  

One further example from my own experience: when I free-
lancing in Los Angeles as a pianist/teacher/technician, I 
was fortunate enough to have a contract tuning the Steinway 
grands monthly for an upscale club.  In this case, I thought 
that it was my minimum responsibility to keep the pianos at 
440--actually, I didn't consider doing otherwise.  

Regarding the discussion about tuning frequency, it seems to 
me that there could be one argument for tuning less 
frequently, namely that the tuning pins will, over time, 
gradually lose their tightness in the pinblock.  Perhaps in 
cases of regular tunings, this is a consideration, although 
it still seems to me that any mitigating circumstances or 
considerations should be discussed with the client before 
leaving a piano at something other than A440. 

Thank you in advance for your reactions to this concern,

Tim 





---- Original message ----
>Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:06:09 -0600
>From: "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net>  
>Subject: Re: frequent tuning - floating pitch? was tuning  
>To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org>
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>I tune at A-440 every time, regardless of how soon the last 
tuning was on 
>frequently tuned pianos.  That is the idea of so frequent 
tuning that they 
>be right on everytime and all the time.
>James
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Jason Kanter" <jkanter@rollingball.com>
>To: "'Pianotech List'" <pianotech@ptg.org>
>Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:22 AM
>Subject: frequent tuning - floating pitch? was tuning
>
>
>>I imagine that if you "recently" tuned the piano (last 
week or last month 
>>or
>> two months ago) and now it's still "in tune" but a couple 
of cents sharp,
>> you tune it where it lies? That makes it a half-hour 
tuning instead of an
>> hour and a half, and the following week (or month or 
couple of months) you
>> again tune it where it lies, and within six months, when 
you have the 
>> couple
>> of hours, you bring it all to 440 again. Yes? Or do you 
keep adjusting it 
>> to
>> 440 every time? Or sell Dampp-chasers?
>>
>>
>> || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| ||
>> Jason Kanter . jkanter@rollingball.com
>> Piano tuning, regulation, repair
>> Serving Seattle and the San Juans
>> 425.830.1561
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>>
>> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-
bounces@ptg.org] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of PJR
>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 5:16 PM
>> To: Pianotech List
>> Subject: Re: tuning
>>
>>
>> I tune cruise ship pianos once a week.  On them you have 
the problem of
>> rocking, vibrations, salt air, hard players and 
continuous playing
>> (mechanisms).  Comes down to the fact that you tune a 
whenever it needs 
>> it.
>>
>> Phil Ryan
>> Miami Beach
>>
>> pianotune05 wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> How often is too often to tune a piano?  I typically see 
twice a year, or
>> even every three months.  Is anything less than that 
necessary such as 
>> once
>> a month or even once a week which I 've heard of?
>> Marshall
>>
>>
>> 
>
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