frequent tuning - floating pitch? was tuning

[Avery]

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At 08:35 AM 1/28/2006, you wrote:
>I think this might be m problem with speed in=20
>tuning.  As I'm learning this awesome trade, I'm=20
>finding that I need to raise pitch on any=20
>practice piano.  For some reason, I feel like=20
>I'm doing less quality work etc if I were to=20
>leave it flat or sharp, flat in most cases.

If you're trying to do good work, DON'T leave it flat or sharp!

>It's a perfectionist thing.  I feel as if it's=20
>not a440, I'm doing a poor job and my collegues=20
>with more experience are saying, "it's not=20
>a440."  So how do I just tune for the sake of=20
>tuning and gaining experience without the necessity to match it to a440?

That's part of the learning! Just pull it A-440=20
(& a little sharp, if possible) as fast as you=20
can go. THEN go back and tune it to A-440. That's=20
the only way you can if it's that flat!

Avery

>Marshall
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:john@formsmapiano.com>John Formsma
>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>'Pianotech List'
>Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 8:16 AM
>Subject: RE: frequent tuning - floating pitch? was tuning
>
>Jason,
>
>I float the pitch all the time. Stability is my=20
>goal rather than having the piano =93dead-on=94 A440 all the time.
>
>Here=92s the typical scenario=85it=92s winter now and=20
>the piano is 4-5 cents flat in the bass, -12 in=20
>the tenor, and -5 in the treble. So, I do a=20
>one-pass tuning to A439. This way, in the=20
>summer, things will be a bit sharp of A440. If=20
>you pitch correct all the time, the piano is not=20
>as stable. In the summer, when the piano is=20
>sharp, I=92ll tune to A440 or A441, whichever will give the best stability.
>
>Now, if the piano is in a church that uses other=20
>instruments, it gets tuned to A440. However, in=20
>certain less =93critical=94 situations, I=92ll get=20
>within 2 cents of A440 depending on the season.=20
>Most people don=92t ever notice that difference.=20
>Again, the goal is stability rather than being at A440 all the time.
>
> From the perspective of most customers, they=20
> want a piano in tune with itself, and don=92t=20
> really care if it=92s at A439 or A441. They do=20
> care about paying extra for pitch corrections=20
> every season to have it right at A440. If I see=20
> other instruments like a guitar or violin near=20
> the piano, I=92ll ask the customer=92s preference=20
> first. Yes, I do offer DC systems.
>
>John Formsma
>
>
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>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org=20
>[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Jason Kanter
>Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 1:22 AM
>To: 'Pianotech List'
>Subject: frequent tuning - floating pitch? was tuning
>
>I imagine that if you "recently" tuned the piano=20
>(last week or last month or two months ago) and=20
>now it's still "in tune" but a couple of cents=20
>sharp, you tune it where it lies? That makes it=20
>a half-hour tuning instead of an hour and a=20
>half, and the following week (or month or couple=20
>of months) you again tune it where it lies, and=20
>within six months, when you have the couple of=20
>hours, you bring it all to 440 again. Yes? Or do=20
>you keep adjusting it to 440 every time? Or sell Dampp-chasers?
>
>
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>Jason Kanter . jkanter@rollingball.com
>Piano tuning, regulation, repair
>Serving Seattle and the San Juans
>425.830.1561
>
>
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>From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org=20
>[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of PJR
>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 5:16 PM
>To: Pianotech List
>Subject: Re: tuning
>I tune cruise ship pianos once a week.  On them=20
>you have the problem of rocking, vibrations,=20
>salt air, hard players and continuous playing=20
>(mechanisms).  Comes down to the fact that you tune a whenever it needs it.
>
>Phil Ryan
>Miami Beach
>
>pianotune05 wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>How often is too often to tune a piano?  I=20
>typically see twice a year, or even every three=20
>months.  Is anything less than that necessary=20
>such as once a month or even once a week which I 've heard of?
>Marshall
>

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