July 2006 Archives by thread
Starting: Sat Jul 1 03:46:41 MDT 2006
Ending: Mon Jul 31 21:46:37 MDT 2006
Messages: 1280
- One OT subject and One "on topic"
Avery
- piano evaluation checklist
ed440 at mindspring.com
- One OT subject and One "on topic"
Pianoman
- Hale Sight Tuner
Binese G.
- Tuning a Duo/Art player piano
Joe And Penny Goss
- Rebuilder's Gallery Pianos
David Love
- Rebuilder's Gallery Pianos
David Andersen
- Rebuilder's Gallery Pianos
Ron Nossaman
- tuning a player
Info at alliedpiano.com
- When the sound falls apart at higher volumes
Ron Nossaman
- Chladni patterns
Ron Nossaman
- Chladni patterns
PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
- rebuilding deadlines/angry client
richard.ucci at att.net
- Tuning a Duo/Art player piano
Samuel Choy
- Chladni patterns
PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
- rebuilding deadlines/angry client
Erwinspiano at aol.com
- rebuilding deadlines/angry client
Michelle Smith
- Rochester convention
Erwinspiano at aol.com
- quantity of tons of tension per plate
David Nereson
- Rebuilder's Gallery Pianos
Ric Brekne
- rebuilding deadlines/angry client
richard.ucci at att.net
- tuning a player
Ken & Pat Gerler
- Rebuilder's Gallery Pianos
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Zorro (was "TP" OT)
Horace Greeley
- Rebuilder's Gallery Pianos
Absolute Piano
- Piano Service Vehicle - Hybrid
Farrell
- Restringing Pricing
blumetta at netzero.com
- what glue for hammer felts?
Mike Kurta
- Restringing Pricing
A440A at aol.com
- Restringing Pricing
BobDavis88 at aol.com
- cocked hat
a.acker at comcast.net
- big city rates
A440A at aol.com
- Upright Restored in North Carolina
Paul Chick (Earthlink)
- Rochester convention
Erwinspiano at aol.com
- Cocked Hat piano, Jude Reveley
a.acker at comcast.net
- Rebuilder's Gallery Pianos
Erwinspiano at aol.com
- Piano Service Vehicle - Hybrid
Erwinspiano at aol.com
- big city rates
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Unsubscribing
Erwinspiano at aol.com
- Pitch References
william ballard
- Journal articles - Vacuum Line
Hechler Family
- Cocked Hat Piano
Joseph Garrett
- Cocked Hat Piano
Joseph Garrett
- Cocked Hat Piano
Joseph Garrett
- When clients die.
Carman Gentile
- When clients die.
Alan Barnard
- what glue for hammer felts
Carman Gentile
- Awesome and Crucial
David Ilvedson
- rebuilding deadlines/angry client
richard.ucci at att.net
- Piano Wire Cannisters
Blaine Hebert
- Help with squeaky pedals
Mark's Piano Service
- Piano Wire Canisters
Isaac Sadigursky
- Help with squeaky pedals
Jon Page
- Piano Wire Cannisters
Jon Page
- Church situation
Brian Doepke
- When clients die.
Ken & Pat Gerler
- Church situation
Michael Spalding
- Mystery thingees under piano
Dave Smith
- Church situation
David Ilvedson
- Steinway Upright
David Ilvedson
- what glue for hammer felts?
David Ilvedson
- Picture
David Ilvedson
- Re; soundboard cleaning the easy way (Brian Grist)
David Ilvedson
- Mystery thingees under piano
Alan Barnard
- Piano moved in another room - bushings tight!
David Ilvedson
- Smallest Grand Made
Farrell
- Clavichord
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Cocked hat w/pictures
Absolute Piano
- New Baldwins
Sid Blum
- Clavichord
ed440 at mindspring.com
- repetition spring slot
Barbara Richmond
- Used Ivories
David Ilvedson
- sqeaky pedal
Isaac Sadigursky
- Kawai strings
Bob Hull
- repetition spring slot
David Ilvedson
- post pitch-raise creep?
David Nereson
- post pitch-raise creep?
Alan Barnard
- Robinson StrateMate
J Patrick Draine
- Brass decal
ed440 at mindspring.com
- post pitch-raise creep?
ReggaePass at aol.com
- Church situation
Jon Page
- source for a tool
Wayne Walker
- Robinson StrateMate
Jon Page
- source for a tool
Alan Barnard
- Skipping Strings
Blaine Hebert
- Robinson StrateMate
Jon Page
- Lead OUt (was:Robinson StrateMate)
Jon Page
- Church situation
David Ilvedson
- Kawai K2 grand
Terry Jack
- Piano Wire Cannisters
Joseph Garrett
- Piano Wire Cannisters
ed440 at mindspring.com
- post pitch-raise creep?
David Ilvedson
- Upright Action Bold Thread Size
Blaine Hebert
- post pitch-raise creep?
pmc033 at earthlink.net
- Upright Action Bold Thread Size
David Ilvedson
- Kawai K2 grand
donspiano-service at comcast.net
- Car in the Show Room
Blaine Hebert
- Car in the Show Room
David Ilvedson
- Tuning
David Lawson
- Tuning
A440A at aol.com
- Tuning
Elwood Doss
- Tuning
David Ilvedson
- Blatent commercial endorsement ...was Tuning
Alan Barnard
- Strange scale question,
Stephen Grattan
- Selling Client Piano
Farrell
- Blatent commercial endorsement ...was Tuning
David Ilvedson
- String replacement under overstrung area
Michelle Smith
- String replacement under overstrung area
David Ilvedson
- Blatent commercial endorsement ...was Tuning
David Ilvedson
- String replacement under overstrung area
Alan Barnard
- Blatent commercial endorsement ...was Tuning
Alan Barnard
- String replacement under overstrung area
David Ilvedson
- String replacement under overstrung area
ed440 at mindspring.com
- String replacement under overstrung area
David Ilvedson
- Blatent commercial endorsement ...was Tuning
David Ilvedson
- Blatent commercial endorsement ...was Tuning
Don
- tips
Howard Turner
- Baldwin 9' price
Bob Hull
- String replacement under overstrung area
BobDavis88 at aol.com
- dropped piano
richard.ucci at att.net
- Grand Touch
Byeway222 at aol.com
- Regulation Problem with New Parts
pmc033 at earthlink.net
- dropped piano
Alan Barnard
- String replacement under overstrung area
Michelle Smith
- equipment 4 sale
Brian Doepke
- equipment 4 sale
RWyatt8547 at aol.com
- piano moving insurance
Elwood Doss, Jr.
- Grand Touch
Byeway222 at aol.com
- String replacement under overstrung area
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Service Refusal
Farrell
- equipment 4 sale
Tunebyear at aol.com
- Piano Moving Insurance
Philip Jamison
- Grand Touch
Byeway222 at aol.com
- Grand Touch
Byeway222 at aol.com
- Grand Touch
V T
- dropped piano
VOCE88 at aol.com
- dropped piano
VOCE88 at aol.com
- Grand Touch
ed440 at mindspring.com
- dropped piano
Greg Graham
- Fujan lever recommendation
John M. Formsma
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
V T
- String replacement under overstrung area
BobDavis88 at aol.com
- Wrong turn :-)
John Ross
- String replacement under overstrung area
Michelle Smith
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
Michael Spalding
- Digital calipers
Joel A. Jones
- Grand action rebuild
Terry Jack
- Blatent commercial endorsement
Terry Jack
- Tuning Lever
Blaine Hebert
- Grand action rebuild
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Blatent commercial endorsement
David Ilvedson
- Blatent commercial endorsement
David Ilvedson
- equipment 4 sale
RWyatt8547 at aol.com
- Digital calipers
BobDavis88 at aol.com
- Blatent commercial endorsement
Alan Barnard
- Blatent commercial endorsement
David Ilvedson
- musicsorb
Bo Gotrich
- TuneLab 97 Any good?
Samuel Choy
- dropped piano
richard.ucci at att.net
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
V T
- Digital calipers
Lhadeh at wmconnect.com
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
V T
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
V T
- Life Saver with PianoDisc
Info at alliedpiano.com
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
V T
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
ed440 at mindspring.com
- musicsorb
Lhadeh at wmconnect.com
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
V T
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
V T
- My final word (promise) was Blatant commercial endorsement
Alan Barnard
- Blatent commercial endorsement
Alan Barnard
- Blatent commercial endorsement
pmc033 at earthlink.net
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
Michael Spalding
- Blatent commercial endorsement
mps at usol.com
- Grand touch
Byeway222 at aol.com
- Grand touch
BobDavis88 at aol.com
- Grand touch
pmc033 at earthlink.net
- Grand touch
A440A at aol.com
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Blatent commercial endorsement
mps at usol.com
- Grand touch
V T
- Re; soundboard cleaning the easy way (Brian Grist)
John Ross
- Grand touch
David Ilvedson
- dropped piano
richard.ucci at att.net
- Piano opens up with playing
David Love
- Fujan lever addendum
John M. Formsma
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
ReggaePass at aol.com
- Brass but plates
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Brass but plates
Alan R. Barnard
- Fujan lever addendum
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Sitka is for Soundboards
Farrell
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
Michael Spalding
- Voicing
David Lawson
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Inertia - was Grand Touch
Mark Bolsius
- Sitka is for Soundboards
David Ilvedson
- Use of Logo .....
Hechler Family
- B ird cage actions
Chandran Paul Jaikumar
- Inertia, was "Grand Touch"
Michael Spalding
- Key flexing, was "Inertia," was "Grand Touch"
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Pinblock Repair
Clark Sprague
- VT100 on eBay
John M. Formsma
- Pinblock Repair
Alan R. Barnard
- CA with coils driven to plate
Byron Quam
- CA with coils driven to plate
A440A at aol.com
- CA with coils driven to plate
Alan R. Barnard
- CA with coils driven to plate
Alan R. Barnard
- Pianotech Digest, Vol 1276, Issue 153
Kenny Finlayson
- Grand Touch
Ric Brekne
- Grand Touch
Ric Brekne
- Digital calipers
ed440 at mindspring.com
- You gotta smile!
Alan R. Barnard
- Was: You got to smile
Marcel Carey
- Tuning for Correctional Institute
Michelle Smith
- Tuning for Correctional Institute
Michelle Smith
- Tuning for Correctional Institute
David Ilvedson
- Grand Touch
Ric Brekne
- Tuning for Correctional Institute
Alan R. Barnard
- Key flexing, was "Inertia," was "Grand Touch"
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Tuning for Correctional Institute
pianowerks.inc at comcast.net
- Grand Touch
Ric Brekne
- CA with coils driven to the plate
pbmosley
- finished my lever
William R. Monroe
- CA with coils driven to the plate
pbmosley
- Liberace wuz here
Michelle Smith
- Plate bolt question
Geoff Sykes
- Plate bolt question
David Ilvedson
- Key Bushing Method, was: Key flexing
David Ilvedson
- Bechstein 9fter
David Ilvedson
- New Time & Chaos product
David Ilvedson
- [CAUT] New Time & Chaos product
David Ilvedson
- New Time & Chaos product
Alan R. Barnard
- Bechstein 9fter
ed440 at mindspring.com
- 1890s WNG Action Geometry
Farrell
- Bechstein 9fter
David Ilvedson
- Key Bushing Method, was: Key flexing
David Ilvedson
- Bechstein 9fter
David Ilvedson
- 1890s WNG Action Geometry
David Ilvedson
- 1890s WNG Action Geometry
Michael Spalding
- No subject
Elwood Doss, Jr.
- Steinway A with 85 keys
Elwood Doss, Jr.
- Digital Calipers
Joseph Garrett
- Bird-Cage, (Over-Damper), Pianos
Joseph Garrett
- No subject
Jon Page
- more ebay tools
Jon Page
- Hydrocell units and asbestos
Don
- Something old, something new ...
Alan R. Barnard
- Key Ratio
Farrell
- 1890s WNG Action Geometry
David Ilvedson
- Something old, something new ...
David Ilvedson
- dropped piano
David Ilvedson
- 1890s WNG Action Geometry
David Ilvedson
- [Files] John J Smith Piano??
Michael Spalding
- Tuning for Correctional Institute
Auraltuner at aol.com
- 1890s WNG Action Geometry
Jon Page
- 1890s WNG Action Geometry
Jon Page
- 1890s WNG Action Geometry
A440A at aol.com
- 1890s WNG Action Geometry
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Pinblock Repair
Clark Sprague
- Grand Touch / David Ilvedson
Ric Brekne
- Magic (splitting hair) lines
A440A at aol.com
- Tuning/sight impaired ETD
Israel Stein
- Magic (splitting hair) lines
V T
- Magic (splitting hair) lines
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Magic (splitting hair) lines
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Haddorff Vertigrand
J Patrick Draine
- Magic (splitting hair) lines
John Delacour
- Haddorff vert.grand
tom Driscoll
- Pinblock Repair
ed440 at mindspring.com
- tuning pin torque
David Chadwick
- alcoholic key cracks
Tom Sivak
- Wood Rebuilder
Info at alliedpiano.com
- CAbc's
Alan R. Barnard
- Brass but plates
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- mileage fees.
Leslie Bartlett
- mileage fees.
David Ilvedson
- mileage fees.
Michelle Smith
- Brass but plates
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Longer dampers than original
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Spurlock Barn Owls
Farrell
- Erratic Keypins
Farrell
- post pitch-raise creep?
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Business health insurance tax exempted.&H.R.525
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Voicing and the Verboten area (Area 51?)
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Voicing and the Verboten area (Area 51?)
A440A at aol.com
- Central East Regional Seminar
Roy Peters
- mileage fees.
Michelle Smith
- Erratic Keypins
BobDavis88 at aol.com
- Erratic Keypins
ed440 at mindspring.com
- post pitch raise creep
Don
- No subject
Leslie Bartlett
- Hot Yamaha
Bob Hull
- Story and Clark not tuned for 30 years!!
David Ilvedson
- post pitch-raise creep?
David Ilvedson
- Longer dampers than original
David Ilvedson
- Pianotech Digest, Vol 1277, Issue 90
Arbeau Piano
- Cracks in natural key tops
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Who does the tuning for Symphony Silicon Valley?
R Barber
- tuning pin torque
David Chadwick
- tuning pin torque
David Chadwick
- Future Sites for Annual Conventios?
John Ross
- Fwd: Where do I find spurlock articles?
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Voicing and the Verboten area (Area 51?)
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Story and Clark not tuned for 30 years!!
David Ilvedson
- Future Sites for Annual Conventios?
Alan R. Barnard
- Fwd: Where do I find spurlock articles?
David Ilvedson
- Story and Clark not tuned for 30 years!!
David Ilvedson
- Where do I find spurlock articles?
David Ilvedson
- White key coverings
Byeway222 at aol.com
- key Tops
David Lawson
- "ORCA" single needle voicing tool
David Ilvedson
- tuning pin torque
David Ilvedson
- Oddball Player Piano Pedals
Patrick Poulson
- Oddball Player Piano Pedals
David Ilvedson
- Yamaha Yellow Key Fronts
Farrell
- Upright damper work - newbie seeks opinions, please . . .
James H Frazee
- Weird ringing - HELP!!
Terry Jack
- Weird ringing - HELP!!
David Ilvedson
- piano with 64 or 68 keys? .
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Bridle straps' length
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Weird ringing - HELP!!
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Upright damper work - newbie seeks opinions, please . . .
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- American School of Piano Tuning
ed440 at mindspring.com
- should I repair, replace, retreat, or recommend a recking ball on Thomas vertical?
Mark Ultsch
- should I repair, replace, retreat, or recommend a recking ball on Thomas vertical?
alan forsyth
- should I repair, replace, retreat, or recommend a recking ball on Thomas vertical?
Avery
- should I repair, replace, retreat, or recommend a recking ball on Thomas vertical?
Mark Ultsch
- should I repair, replace, retreat, or recommend a recking ball on Thomas vertical?
pianolady50 at peoplepc.com
- should I repair, replace, retreat, or recommend a recking ball on Thomas vertical?
Barbara Richmond
- Upright damper work - newbie seeks opinions, please . . .
David Ilvedson
- Upright damper work - newbie seeks opinions, please . . .
David Ilvedson
- American School of Piano Tuning
PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
- suggestions on selling pianos
Jon Page
- Formacion A Distancia eLearning.Cursos de Musica y Otros.
Manu Gago
- Serial numbers of Yamaha/kawai pianos
Chandran Paul Jaikumar
- A 435 or A 440 ?
Jack Houweling
- Bernard pattern grand hammerhead extractor
John Delacour
- No subject
Victor Belanger
- Pure Sound (was A 435 or A 440 ?)
ed440 at mindspring.com
- A 435 or A 440 ?
JWyatt1492 at aol.com
- Kimball Console-broken damper rod hook
Gordon Holley
- Kimball Console-broken damper rod hook
JWyatt1492 at aol.com
- Kimball Console-broken damper rod hook
David Ilvedson
- Kimball Console-broken damper rod hook
Dave Davis
- A 435 or A 440 ?
David Ilvedson
- Kimball Console-broken damper rod hook
David Ilvedson
- Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers
David Ilvedson
- Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers
David Ilvedson
- List
Terry Jack
- Pure Sound (was A 435 or A 440 ?)
Stéphane Collin
- Kranich and Bach upright
Alan R. Barnard
- Heavy Duty Grand Hammerhead Extracting Pliers
David Ilvedson
- A 435 or A 440
Israel Stein
- Combination Handle
Geoffrey Arnold
- correx tension gauge
David Ilvedson
- Combination Handle
David Ilvedson
- rocker arm to capstan conversion
dralanshulman shulman
- string cover installations
pbmosley
- rocker arm to capstan conversion
Alan R. Barnard
- Kimball Console-broken damper rod hook
David Ilvedson
- string cover installations
David Ilvedson
- Pure Sound (was A 435 or A 440 ?)
ed440 at mindspring.com
- string cover installations
pbmosley
- Front Rail Pin Drill Bit Size
Farrell
- rocker arm to capstan conversion
Jon Page
- Pure Sound (was A 435 or A 440 ?)
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Bernard pattern grand hammerhead extractor
John Fortiner
- rocker arm to capstan conversion
ed440 at mindspring.com
- drill for front rail pins
Joseph Garrett
- string cover installation
Isaac Sadigursky
- Kimball brockern Damper Rod Hook
Isaac Sadigursky
- A 435 or A 440 ?
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Weird ringing - HELP!!
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Upright damper work - newbe....Thanks Terry
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- WOW!! I saw GOLD PAINTED tuning pins!
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- A 435 or A 440 ?
Ric Brekne
- Weird ringing - HELP!!
Ric Brekne
- WOW!! I saw GOLD PAINTED tuning pins!
Dtalcott at cs.com
- Static weigh-off question for Dave
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- Fwd: Business health insurance tax exempted.&H.R.525
KeyKat88 at aol.com
- A435 or 440?
David Nereson
- drill sets (was: drill for front rail pins)
Jon Page
- dead chickering
richard.ucci at att.net
- CURSOS DE PIANO
Manu Gago
- dead chickering
JWyatt1492 at aol.com
- WOW!! I saw GOLD PAINTED tuning pins!
Alan R. Barnard
- Cursos de Piano
Manu Gago
- A435 or 440?
David Ilvedson
- credit cards
Roy
- credit cards
Alan R. Barnard
- CURSOS DE PIANO
Manu Gago
- A general rule of business & setting the record straight was RE: credit cards
Alan R. Barnard
- Noise in the bass strings that won't tune away.
David Ilvedson
- dead chickering
richard.ucci at att.net
- dead chickering
richard.ucci at att.net
- credit cards
richard.ucci at att.net
- CURSOS DE PIANO
Manu Gago
- Baldwin SD-10 Treble Counterbearing
David Love
- Fwd: Business health insurance tax exempted.&H.R.525
Roy
- CURSOS DE PIANO http://www.guadalmusa.eu/
Manu Gago
- credit cards
pmc033 at earthlink.net
- CURSOS DE PIANO http://www.guadalmusa.eu/
Manu Gago
- CURSOS
A440A at aol.com
- CURSOS DE PIANO http://www.guadalmusa.eu/
Manu Gago
- credit cards
Dave Doremus
- Curses on CURSOS
Jon Page
- It's Friday
John Ross
- credit cards
Israel Stein
- Action Frame Front Rail Repair
Farrell
- Action weight
Barbara Richmond
- Action weight
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Action Frame Front Rail Repair
PianoTek4u at aol.com
- Pianotech Digest, Vol 1277, Issue 142
David Lawson Pianos
- Action weight
ed440 at mindspring.com
- File upload area on website
Ron Berry
- New File by Ron Berry
filemgr at ptg.org
- ....Front Rail Repair
Joseph Garrett
- File upload area on website
Ron Berry
- Action weight
David Ilvedson
- WOW!! I saw GOLD PAINTED tuning pins!
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Why? Why? Why?
James H Frazee
- Why? Why? Why?
Don
- Why? Why? Why?
Jon Page
- Why? Why? Why?
David Ilvedson
- Why? Why? Why?
Hechler Family
- removing key leads
Debra Feiger
- Ed's two CD's
Kenny Finlayson
- credit cards
V T
- Ed's two CD's
A440A at aol.com
- removing key leads
A440A at aol.com
- removing key leads
V T
- S&S B- Queen Ann
Andrew Olson
- removing key leads
Debra Feiger
- removing key leads
PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
- back action replacement questions
Gene Nelson
- Action weight
David Ilvedson
- back action replacement questions
A440A at aol.com
- Art of Tuning the Piano
Don
- Renner Dead Leaders
Mark Dierauf
- Back action Replacement questions
Joseph Garrett
- Removing Leads......
Joseph Garrett
- Why? Why? Why?
David Ilvedson
- Startlingly Stable Steinway
Alan R. Barnard
- removing key leads
ed440 at mindspring.com
- Back action Replacement questions
Jon Page
- Key Leads
David Lawson
- Pianotek's ebony sharp stain
Mark Dierauf
- Dead-On Unisons - Was Startlingly Stable Steinway
Michelle Smith
- Dead-On Unisons - Was Startlingly Stable Steinway
Kuvshinikov at aol.com
- Dead-On Unisons - Was Startlingly Stable Steinway
Alan Barnard
- Dead-On Unisons - Was Startlingly Stable Steinway
Michelle Smith
- Pianotech Digest, Vol 1277, Issue 160
David Lawson Pianos
- Dead-On Unisons - Was Startlingly Stable Steinway
BobDavis88 at aol.com
- Dead-On Unisons - Was Startlingly Stable Steinway
A440A at aol.com
- curiously repinning
Chuck Beck
- Dead-On Unisons - Was Startlingly Stable Steinway
Michelle Smith
- Mason AA key end felts
Tom Sivak
- Mason AA key end felts
ed440 at mindspring.com
- May I quote you on that?
Tom Sivak
- Oh Joy!...It's Monday! (SIGH!)
Joseph Garrett
- May I quote you on that?
David Ilvedson
- May I quote you on that?
David Ilvedson
- Mason AA key end felts
David Ilvedson
- May I quote you on that?
Alan R. Barnard
- Help scaling
Jason Kanter
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