Black Market Pianos

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Hi Jeannie,
I was wondering if you're teaching at the convention.  I didn't see your 
name in the seminar information on the convention site ,but I thought I'd 
ask in case I missed something..

I agree with you, finding an excellent mentor is so key.  I also joined a 
great chapter which has great piano techs associated with it.
Marshall
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeannie Grassi" <jcgrassi at earthlink.net>
To: "'Pianotech List'" <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:32 PM
Subject: RE: Black Market Pianos


> Both Yamaha and Kawai have a separate market for US pianos.  When a piano
> destined for another market crosses over to a different one for a second
> sale, it undercuts the market in that existing country.  I believe the 
> same
> problems occur in Europe as well.
>
> The American branch of Yamaha has taken a particularly hard stand by not
> being willing to supply parts and service to these instruments.
>
> jeannie
>
>
> Jeannie Grassi, RPT
> Registered Piano Technician
> Island Piano Service
> Bainbridge Island, WA
> 206-842-3721
> mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On 
> Behalf
> Of Farrell
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:08 AM
> To: Pianotech List
> Subject: Re: Black Market Pianos
>
> Tons of this is the archives. It has nothing to do with who is selling a
> used piano. It has to do with where the piano was originally sold when it
> was new. If the piano was sold in Japan when new, and now, some years 
> later,
>
> is being resold here in North America, it is considered a grey market 
> piano.
>
> This is certainly the case with Yamaha pianos. However, is this the case
> with Kawai? I had not heard that Kawai makes two different lines of pianos
> based on destination market. Anyone know?
>
> Terry Farrell
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> This sounds to me like a "grey market" piano.  As I understand it, people
>> who are who are not authorized dealers buy quantities of used pianos, 
>> then
>> hold a big sale, often at a university.  This practice is perfectly 
>> legal,
>> and the pianos are most likely the genuine article.  However, since the
>> seller is not an authorized dealer, the manufacturer will not honor the
>> original warranty, nor will they provide replacement parts when 
>> necessary.
>> I'm told Yamaha is especially strict, which makes sense to me, as they
>> must
>> protect the legitimate dealers.
>>
>> --Paul Mulik
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> Can you tell me something about black market pianos?  There is a Kawai
>> piano for sale by a church who was told it was a black market piano and
>> Kawai would not do warranty service on-obviously.  I was wondering who
>> manufactures them, do they just put a Kawai name on the piano? What kind
>> of piano are they? To my knowlege I've never had any dealings with these
>> before and am curious about the instruments.
>>
>> Joy!
>>
>> Elwood
>
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