Pianotech Digest, Vol 1273, Issue 105

Joseph Garrett joegarrett at earthlink.net
Sun Mar 19 23:43:43 MST 2006


Marshall, the oblivious said: "HI Joe,
Sorry no lapel here, dockers and golf/casual shirts all the way unless
otherwise specified in Rochester. :)"

Marshall,
Ah yes, one of the slovenly ones!<G> Don't forget your Burkenstocks to give
us the full "treatment".

Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
Captain, Tool Police
Squares R I



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>    1. Re: moi (pianotune05 at comcast.net)
>    2. Re: moi (pianotune05 at comcast.net)
>    3. Re: moi (pianotune05 at comcast.net)
>    4. Re: CA delivery apparatus (Dave Doremus)
>    5. Re: Listers at Rochester  (pianotune05 at comcast.net)
>    6. Re: Hearing (pianotune05 at comcast.net)
>    7. Re: Flash, Flash: LET THERE BE LIGHT (Joe And Penny Goss)
>    8. CA delivery apparatus (Israel Stein)
>    9. Re: Pianola (Wayne M. Williams)
>   10. Re: CA delivery apparatus (Dave McKibben)
>   11. Re: CA delivery apparatus (John Ross)
>   12. Re: ear plugs (DIANE HOFSTETTER)
>   13. Re: ear plugs (pianotune05 at comcast.net)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:04:29 +0000
> From: pianotune05 at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: moi
> To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
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> HI Joe,
> Sorry no lapel here, dockers and golf/casual shirts all the way unless
otherwise specified in Rochester. :)
> Marshall
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett at earthlink.net> 
>
> Alan said: " 
> Marshall, Joe has a reputation for being a little crusty and speaking his
mind, but he is a vast treasure-trove of piano knowledge and is willing to
share it. He's actually quite loveable though never, perhaps, cuddly. Take
his convention classes."
>
> Alan et al,
> Cuddly I ain't! Crusty?....More like cantankerous.<G> Loveable?....Nah!
<G> One word sums it up: CURMUDGEON!<G> (I do it in honor of the original
"Curmudgeon", Al Sites.)
> Sorry to say, since I've taken on the job of RVP, I won't be teaching at
the National. It goes with the job! Damn! I really do like the classroom
thingee! So much to teach/learn, never enough time.
> BTW, I do speak my mind, (what's left of it!<G>
> See you all in Rochester....I'm the one with all the buttons on his
lapel!<G>
>
>
> Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
> Captain, Tool Police
> Squares R I
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:06:00 +0000
> From: pianotune05 at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: moi
> To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
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> RVP,Recreational Vehicle Person? Would that be a class A, B or C?
> Marshall
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> From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com> 
>
> What's an RVP?
>
> Terry Farrell
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> SNIP
> Sorry to say, since I've taken on the job of RVP, 
> SNIP
> Joe Garrett, R.P.T. 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:09:01 +0000
> From: pianotune05 at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: moi
> To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
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> Why just "What he wrote?"  :)
> Marshall
>
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> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: John Ross <jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca> 
>
> Are these buttons on your lapel, for pushing. If so let me know, which
one not to push. :-)
> Looking forward to seeing, all the 'listees' from the list.
> Are we going to have a get together as before?
> We had a meeting of the listers, at Arlington, and Nashville, if I
remember correctly.
> Maybe we should all wear a purple glue on sticker to our badge, that way,
we would know, who we were.
> It is so nice to put a name to a face, and I haven't heard of anyone
getting punched out yet, for what he wrote. :-)
> John M. Ross
> Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
> jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Joseph Garrett 
> To: pianotech 
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 1:58 PM
> Subject: Re: moi
>
>
> Alan said: " 
> Marshall, Joe has a reputation for being a little crusty and speaking his
mind, but he is a vast treasure-trove of piano knowledge and is willing to
share it. He's actually quite loveable though never, perhaps, cuddly. Take
his convention classes."
>
> Alan et al,
> Cuddly I ain't! Crusty?....More like cantankerous.<G> Loveable?....Nah!
<G> One word sums it up: CURMUDGEON!<G> (I do it in honor of the original
"Curmudgeon", Al Sites.)
> Sorry to say, since I've taken on the job of RVP, I won't be teaching at
the National. It goes with the job! Damn! I really do like the classroom
thingee! So much to teach/learn, never enough time.
> BTW, I do speak my mind, (what's left of it!<G>
> See you all in Rochester....I'm the one with all the buttons on his
lapel!<G>
>
>
> Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
> Captain, Tool Police
> Squares R I
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:09:01 -0600
> From: Dave Doremus <algiers_piano at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: CA delivery apparatus
> To: ed440 at mindspring.com, Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
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> On 3/19/06, ed440 at mindspring.com said:
>
> >Jon-
> >
> >I just snapped a thin hypodermic needle onto the tip of a 1 ounce 
> >bottle of thin CA.
>
>
> Ed, I like that idea. I have struggled with this process, nothing 
> seems to deliver a fine enough drop with reliability. Do you have a 
> source for needles that fit CA bottles?
> -- 
> ----Dave
>
>
> -----------------------------
> Dave Doremus, RPT
> New Orleans
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:16:26 +0000
> From: pianotune05 at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: Listers at Rochester 
> To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
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> I'm looking forward to meeting everyone from the list.  This is my first
convention , so I'm not sure where to begin as soon as I get my wife and
son all situated in the hotel room etc. They'll  have fun checking out the
sky way and mall while I hunt down Joe and even Ron May, come what may. 
>
> Marshall
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "J. Stanley Ryberg" <jstan40 at sbcglobal.net> 
>
> And at Chicago, too, John!  But I asked the same question last year
concerning the convention at KC and received a pretty fast, curt "no,"
which is why I'm very glad YOU asked the question this time!  It really
wouldn't take much, would it...between sessions, for example?
>
> Looking forward to seeing you again, John...and many, many others!
>
> Looking forward to seeing, all the 'listees' from the list.
> Are we going to have a get together as before?
> We had a meeting of the listers, at Arlington, and Nashville, if I
remember correctly.
> Maybe we should all wear a purple glue on sticker to our badge, that way,
we would know, who we were.
> It is so nice to put a name to a face, and I haven't heard of anyone
getting punched out yet, for what he wrote. :-)
> John M. Ross
> Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
> jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca
>
>
>
> Stan Ryberg 
> Barrington IL 
> jstan40 at sbcglobal.net
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:20:01 +0000
> From: pianotune05 at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: Hearing
> To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
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> Hi Carl,
> I think that's the case, we focus better, but I do think too that we also
learn to use it to our fullest ability since our visual senses are either
not working or working to a less capacity.  I'm the same way although not
totall blind, but I can tell when a unison is out at our church and it bugs
me to death.  Our pastor doesn't want to pay for a tuning so I either do a
free one or wait until Jesus comes back.  So I figure I'll do a free one
for the practice.  
> Marshall
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: carlteplitski <koko99 at shaw.ca> 
>
> (  Cautiously jumpimg in here. )   Told by a Dr. friend   many years ago
that  people who 
> can't see, "don't" actually hear better physically, but do focus better,
because they are not as distracted.
> I used to  tune for a blind musician,  and learned very quickly to pay
attention when he thought 
> a note was not right. He was always correct, and it bothered him more
than other musicians. ( not piano ).   
>
>
> Carl / Winnipeg
>
>
>
>
> Alan Barnard wrote: 
> Marshall, I'd like you meet Joe Garrett.
>
> Joe, this is Marshall Somebodyoranother.
>
> Marshall, Joe has a reputation for being a little crusty and speaking his
mind, but he is a vast treasure-trove of piano knowledge and is willing to
share it. He's actually quite loveable though never, perhaps, cuddly. Take
his convention classes.
>
> Joe, Marshall here is somewhat like I was, years ago, when I joined the
list, i.e., trying a little too hard to fit in, perhaps. Personality-wise,
he may be more like you.
>
> Oh, dear.
>
> Let the games begin!
>
> Alan Barnard
> Salem, Missouri
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Joseph Garrett 
> To: pianotech
> Sent: 03/19/2006 1:24:59 AM 
> Subject: Hearing
>
>
> Marshall, the naive said: "...but since I'm sight impaired, my hearing is
so acute."
>
> Marshall,
> If you believe that crap, I feel sorry for you. There have been many
studies in regards to the Urban Legend: "Blind people can hear better", all
have proven that Blind people do not have any better/worse hearing than
visual types. Sheesh! If it's so "acute", why is it that you are having
difficulty mastering TUNING?
>
>
> Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (Oregon)
> Captain, Tool Police
> Squares R I
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:30:28 -0700
> From: "Joe And Penny Goss" <imatunr at srvinet.com>
> Subject: Re: Flash, Flash: LET THERE BE LIGHT
> To: <tune4u at earthlink.net>, "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Message-ID: <030b01c64bd7$058e46e0$e437bbd0 at setup00>
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> Hi Alan,
> I must admit I was dazzled by the light you show and sold it for a while.
> Went back to old tech becuase the light cast too many shadows for me to
see clearly.
> Glad you like them <G>
> Joe Goss RPT
> Mother Goose Tools
> imatunr at srvinet.com
> www.mothergoosetools.com
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Alan Barnard 
>   To: Pianotech 
>   Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 8:24 PM
>   Subject: Flash, Flash: LET THERE BE LIGHT
>
>
>
>   If you don't have one of these yet, go buy it tomorrow! Absolutely
super for action work; you'll wonder how you ever ...
>
>
>
>
>   Got mine at Lowe's but here's the distributor's direct website:
http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/hand_tools/coast/led-lenser.
htm?E+coastest
>
>   Alan Barnard
>   Salem, Missouri
>
>   P.S. Isn't it curious that most piano techs are always in search of the
perfect light to see what we are doing, yet a small percentage of us can do
it as well (or better) in total darkness.
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:25:40 -0800
> From: Israel Stein <custos3 at comcast.net>
> Subject: CA delivery apparatus
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
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> At 07:34 PM 3/19/2006, John Ross wrote:
>
>
> >Why can't you get a good supply of needles?
> >I just go to may drugstore, and they say, what size, and how many.
> >John M. Ross
> >Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
>
> In most jurisdictions down here in the States, John, the sale of 
> hypodermic needles is restricted. Very restricted. And in many places 
> possession without a prescription is illegal. Junkies use them for 
> purposes other than dispensing CA glue, you know...   I've been 
> hoarding my supply that I got many years ago in New Mexico where the 
> restrictions weren't quite so tight and a friend of mine managed a 
> pharmacy... I suppose than I could now get my doctor to give me a 
> prescription - having lived long enough to reach the age of Type II
Diabetes...
>
> Israel Stein
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:55:41 -0500
> From: "Wayne M. Williams" <wwilliams11 at nycap.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: Pianola
> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Message-ID: <002501c64bd2$28d6f7f0$640fa8c0 at wwilliams11>
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> Dear Everyone:
> Thank you kindly for your help. I will get Reblitz's Player Piano book,
but 
> I am not sure if I want to take that kind of repair on. As of now, the
pano 
> does not "work". You can work the pedals, but the vacuum isn't sufficient
to 
> work the keys. I read an electric motor made for these pianos is good to 
> install as well as the other necessary
> repairs.
>
> Wayne Williams
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Ross" <jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca>
> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Pianola
>
>
> > If you are interested in knowing about player pianos, Arthur Reblitz, 
> > wrote a book, called Player Piano Servicing and Rebuilding.
> > We all know the good reputation his Piano book has, well this does the 
> > same for player pianos.
> > John M. Ross
> > Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
> > jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Wayne M. Williams" <wwilliams11 at nycap.rr.com>
> > To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 2:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: Pianola
> >
> >
> >> Hello Everyone:
> >>
> >> One of my clients has a 50 or so key Pianoa player piano. I got the
thing 
> >> apart and tuned, and managed to get it back together(whew!). Does
anyone 
> >> know someone who is an expert in player pianos or could give some 
> >> references on how to fix them(make them work).
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Wayne Williams
> >> Schroon Lake, NY
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "ibetuner" <ibetuner at sbcglobal.net>
> >> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:17 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Excessive CA Glue
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com>
> >>> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 9:16 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: Excessive CA Glue
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I've got a suggestion that should be tried before debonder - and 
> >>>> should've
> >>>> been tried before CA - if it's a new piano, call the manufacturer - 
> >>>> sounds
> >>>> like a warranty issue if ever I've seen one!
> >>>>
> >>>> Terry Farrell
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>>
> >>>> > Before using the debonder, or any other solvent, test a small
amount 
> >>>> > on
> >>>> > the
> >>>> > plate finish, preferably in a hidden corner.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Next time, try one of those strap-on-the-head LED lamps.  It's
part 
> >>>> > of
> >>> my
> >>>> > standard set-up for juicing a block.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Mike
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> [Original Message]
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Please Help...
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Tuned a new large grand piano for a show...never been tuned
before.
> >>> Piano
> >>>> >> was about 30 cents flat.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Tuning pins for E1 thru A1 acted as if they weren't even
connected 
> >>>> >> to
> >>> the
> >>>> >> pinblock. Pulled up the pitch and with the hammer still on they 
> >>>> >> unwound
> >>>> >> quicker 'n snot (My heart dropped).
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Was working on a dimmley lit stage and couldn't see how much CA
glue 
> >>>> >> I
> >>>> >> put
> >>>> >> on the pins...got overrun on the plate (not my usual work). Also 
> >>>> >> under
> >>>> > time
> >>>> >> constraints. I've done a number of pinblocks with CA glue with
great
> >>>> >> results...works well and looks good.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Pins held OK but would like to clean up the plate...anyone know
of a
> >>> way
> >>>> > to
> >>>> >> remove the CA Glue...Can I just use debonder?
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> TNX in advance...
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Wayne Lutzow
> >>>> >> Associate Member
> >>>> >> Lincoln, CA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
> >> 
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:53:30 -0800
> From: "Dave McKibben" <davespianotuning at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: CA delivery apparatus
> To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>, ed440 at mindspring.com,
> 	"Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Message-ID: <380-22006312045330578 at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> HI list:
> Well........here in California where nothing is legal except illegals and
> taxes, they will not give out needles over the counter at all.
> Sure wish they would, but .......no deal here.
>
> Dave McKibben
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: John Ross <jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca>
> > To: <ed440 at mindspring.com>; Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
> > Date: 3/19/2006 6:28:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: CA delivery apparatus
> >
> > Why can't you get a good supply of needles?
> > I just go to may drugstore, and they say, what size, and how many.
> > John M. Ross
> > Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
> > jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <ed440 at mindspring.com>
> > To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: CA delivery apparatus
> >
> >
> > > Jon-
> > >
> > > I just snapped a thin hypodermic needle onto the tip of a 1 ounce 
> > > bottle of thin CA.
> > >
> > > I was able to get fairly small drops, one at a time without the 
> > > dribble that happens with the thin nylon tip extenders.  The drops 
> > > were small enough to do a discrete tuning pin job as you described.
> > >
> > > To clean it, I filled the syringe body with acetone and squirted it 
> > > through.  If I had a good supply of needles, I would just toss it 
> > > after use.
> > >
> > > Ed Sutton
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Jon Page <jonpage at comcast.net>
> > >>Sent: Mar 19, 2006 7:04 AM
> > >>To: pianotech at ptg.org
> > >>Subject: CA delivery apparatus
> > >>
> > >>I've been mulling over means to apply CA to bridge pins
> > >>and not risk flooding an area.
> > >>
> > >>The elongated tip on the bottle doesn't offer enough control.
> > >>
> > >>Once I tried a hypodermic needle and the plunger kept getting
> > >>hung up (glued to the sides). If one were to lube the ways
> > >>would the glue dissolve it anyway placing the lube in suspension?
> > >>Does the plunger offer fine enough control? Is there an appliance
> > >>with a screw drive whereby the plunger would be activated by
> > >>finely controlled pressure?
> > >>
> > >>Another device might be a drafting pen (old fashioned variety).
> > >>This might be the item because it can't dump excess by mistake.
> > >>I hate it when that happens.
> > >>
> > >>An artist's fluid-writing pen might clog too easily. However there
> > >>might be an application for a Speedball tip. (I've done calligraphy
> > >>in the distant past, which comes in handy when lettering plates -
> > >>fluid-writing pen and waterbased acrylic medium).
> > >>
> > >>An artist's brush will solidify and have too much area for pin-point
> > >>application. I've used this before and was not satisfied.
> > >>Two or three fine wires bundled together might work,
> > >>sort of like a mini-pen/steel brush.
> > >>
> > >>Maybe the Moody Drip-o-lator?  (check the archive, it's in there)
> > >>
> > >>Any sure-fire delivery system out there?  Brainstorming welcome.
> > >>
> > >>I'll be suppressing the false beats on a treble bridge tomorrow.
> > >>So far I'm leaning towards the drafting pen but will also experiment
> > >>with a greased-up hypo.  An old-style drafting pen might be easier
> > >>cleaning than a Speedball tip.
> > >>-- 
> > >>
> > >>Regards,
> > >>
> > >>Jon Page
> > >>_______________________________________________
> > >>Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
> > > 
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 01:10:14 -0400
> From: John Ross <jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca>
> Subject: Re: CA delivery apparatus
> To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Message-ID: <002701c64bdc$92626c90$6400a8c0 at Ross>
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> The zero tolerance law, had slipped my mind.
> I suppose, I would be in trouble, if I had a bunch with me, and I was in 
> the USA.
> You would think that if a person, could show a legitimate use for them, 
> like us, it would be allowed to have them.
> John M. Ross
> Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
> jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Israel Stein" <custos3 at comcast.net>
> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:25 AM
> Subject: CA delivery apparatus
>
>
> > At 07:34 PM 3/19/2006, John Ross wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Why can't you get a good supply of needles?
> >>I just go to may drugstore, and they say, what size, and how many.
> >>John M. Ross
> >>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
> >
> > In most jurisdictions down here in the States, John, the sale of 
> > hypodermic needles is restricted. Very restricted. And in many places 
> > possession without a prescription is illegal. Junkies use them for 
> > purposes other than dispensing CA glue, you know...   I've been 
> > hoarding my supply that I got many years ago in New Mexico where the 
> > restrictions weren't quite so tight and a friend of mine managed a 
> > pharmacy... I suppose than I could now get my doctor to give me a 
> > prescription - having lived long enough to reach the age of Type II 
> > Diabetes...
> >
> > Israel Stein
> >
> > 
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:02:34 -0800
> From: "DIANE HOFSTETTER" <dianepianotuner at msn.com>
> Subject: Re: ear plugs
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
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>
> Paul Said
> >Hi, Marshall:
> >	I use musician's earplugs from: www.musiciansfriend.com.  They are very
> >inexpensive, around $15.00, and sell under the name "Hearos".  Go to that
> >website and type "Hearos" in their search box.  One size fits all, and
they
> >are very comfortable.
>
>
>
> Since ear canals come in different sizes, one size does NOT fit all. 
Women 
> have smaller diameter ear canals than men, and the sizes of the ear
canals 
> vary by race.
>
> I tried the HR-20's sold by Pianotek.  The first day I got an earache in
my 
> left ear.  The second day I told myself; "Don't be such a wimp, Diane." 
So 
> I wore them again and got earaches in both ears!
>
> I even tried cutting the flanges narrower to try to make them 
> comfortable--no luck.
>
> Diane
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 05:25:05 +0000
> From: pianotune05 at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: ear plugs
> To: Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org>
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> Diane,
> What d oyou know about the ear plugs sold at CVS, Walgreens etc?  What
are you using now?
> Marshall
>
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "DIANE HOFSTETTER" <dianepianotuner at msn.com> 
>
> > 
> > Paul Said 
> > >Hi, Marshall: 
> > > I use musician's earplugs from: www.musiciansfriend.com. They are
very 
> > >inexpensive, around $15.00, and sell under the name "Hearos". Go to
that 
> > >website and type "Hearos" in their search box. One size fits all, and
they 
> > >are very comfortable. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Since ear canals come in different sizes, one size does NOT fit all.
Women 
> > have smaller diameter ear canals than men, and the sizes of the ear
canals 
> > vary by race. 
> > 
> > I tried the HR-20's sold by Pianotek. The first day I got an earache in
my 
> > left ear. The second day I told myself; "Don't be such a wimp, Diane."
So 
> > I wore them again and got earaches in both ears! 
> > 
> > I even tried cutting the flanges narrower to try to make them 
> > comfortable--no luck. 
> > 
> > Diane 
> > 
> > 
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