Forget about 3rds, 10ths, or 17ths above octave 5. Use double and triple octaves. I also use fourths, 11ths, and 18ths, but mostly double and triple octaves. If everything in octaves 1 thru 5 is in order, tuning the top two octaves is all about letting the piano tell you how much stretch it wants to have a beatless triple octave. David Andersen > I am learning to tune the piano by ear and have a question about tuning > octaves in the high treble and performing the tests on them. Lower down > the piano and for an octave or two above the temperament octave I use a > 3rd-10th test to check whether the beat rate of the 10th is the same as or > slightly faster than the 3rd, to provide an octave that is correctly > stretched. When I go higher in pitch I use a 3rd-17th test so that I can > still hear the beats and do the comparison. The problem I am having is > that when I go still higher, say in the final octave, I can hear the beats > of the third but I can't hear the beats of the 17th, or any ripple at all. > I can't therefore compare the two beats rates and check the octave. The > higher note also dies away quicker so it makes it even more difficult. Is > there any special technique I should use to be able to hear the beat rate > of the 17th so that I can check the higher octaves? Thank you very much > for your help. > > Robert Finley
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