Ric, <<Listening to beat rates, the 17th is to be tuned so that it is slightly faster then the 3rd, even less so but still faster then the 10th, and just barely slower (under 0.5 bps) then the 6th. The 6th / 17th is a test for a 12th below the 17th Playing the intervals in fairly quick order as given above, it is very easy to hear the relative beat rates and place the note to be tuned (the 17th) inbetween. Followed up by close listening to double and singel octaves and the 12th, you quickly get a very consistantly and crispy clean treble all the way up.>> Sounds similar to the results I get for using the double octave (15) and octave-fifth (12th). If you make them beat equally, you get what you described in your post. Almost pure 12ths, and double octaves about 1/2 bps or less depending on the piano. Done all the way to the top produces a sound that is just right, IMHO, of course! ;-) John Formsma
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