Hi Ed, I don't know. I haven't seen it yet but I seem to remember someone saying that sometimes the threads didn't go all the way to the top and that caused some to break. Am I imagining things? Anyway, I guess I'll find out on Sunday. Avery At 03:50 PM 5/19/2006, you wrote: >Avery- > >I'm beginning to think this could be wierd. How >could it break down in the plate, within the >length of the tapped, threaded hole? How did >the top part come out? Did it rip out part of the threads? > >I replaced the agraffes on a 1970's D where >holes had not been tapped deep enough to take >the agraffe shank. They had been forced in, >smashing the threads to fit. And this required >tapping the holes to proper depth before putting in new agraffes. > >If you don't have taps for agraffe holes, maybe >you could borrow some and bring them along. > >Ed Sutton > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Avery >Sent: May 19, 2006 4:12 PM >To: ilvey at sbcglobal.net, Pianotech List >Subject: RE: Broken Agraffe > >David, > >I guess I'll find out this weekend! :-) > >Avery > >At 11:35 AM 5/19/2006, you wrote: > >>If anything it should be easier to >>remove...less surface area/friction...all you >>will need is the fish-tail tool...believe me >> >>David Ilvedson, RPT >>Pacifica, California >> >> >> >> >>---------- >>Original message >>From: Avery >>To: "Pianotech List" >>Received: 5/19/2006 3:23:06 AM >>Subject: RE: Broken Agraffe >> >>Hi Isaac, >> >>Thanks. Not panicking, though. Yet. :-) I just >>wondered about any differences in removal when >>the remainder of the stub is down inside the >>plate. I'm aware of the methods you mention >>except for the plugs from Bob. Thanks for that information. >>It's an out of town store and I won't be able >>to go until Sunday or Monday. There's also a >>bunch of new grands to prep, so it'll be a worthwhile trip. >> >>Regards, >>Avery >> >>At 01:43 AM 5/19/2006, you wrote: >>>Hi,Avery! Please,don’t panic!!!!! Should be >>>simple..If you can set the Temperament-you >>>should be able to remove the brocken >>>agraffe.Please,check the archives for more info. >>>First attempt should be pulling it out with >>>modified screwdriver grinded in shape of “V’ >>>or “Fishtale”.It should grab it in 2 >>>points.Remember,while tapping turn the >>>screwdriver COUNTER-CLOCKWISE.That method works in 94,87% times. >>>#2;Try LEFT-HAND drill bit,it drills >>>counter-clockwise,prevents further jamming of >>>the brocken part and ,usually,brocken part >>>starts to come out after drill penetrates it at about 1/8” dip. >>>In extreme cases,when hole threads are >>>damaged.you will have to use customized >>>plugs.Bob Marinelli at Piano-Tech has them in stock. >>>Hope it helps .If any problemas-catch me on my >>>cell manyana at 818-599-9839 and I will try to help you.Best of Luck Isaac >>> >>> >>>---------- >>>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [ >>>mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Avery >>>Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:40 PM >>>To: Pianotech List >>>Subject: Broken Agraffe >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>List, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>A dealer I do some work >>> >>>for >>> >>>just called me and said they had a >>> >>>broken >>> >>> >>>agraffe on a Steinway >>> >>> >>> >>>M from the 1940's. I have >>> >>>information about the usual ways to remove >>> >>>a >>> >>> >>>broken agraffe when >>> >>> >>> >>>it's broken flush with the >>> >>>plate. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>My question is will the >>> >>>same method(s) work when it's broken down >>> >>>inside >>> >>> >>>the hole? Any >>> >>> >>> >>>suggestions, cautions, >>> >>>etc.? In my 32 yrs. of doing this work, I've >>> >>>only >>> >>> >>>had to replace one! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Thanks. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Avery >>> >>>Todd >>> >>> >>>University of >>> >>>Houston -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20060519/9c2749e6/attachment.html
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