Clicking drop screws on a new Steinway

David Love davidlovepianos at comcast.net
Fri May 26 17:41:04 MDT 2006


Steinway piano, you can't pull the action rail.  

 

David Love
davidlovepianos at comcast.net 

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Andrew and Rebeca Anderson
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 3:07 PM
To: Pianotech List
Subject: RE: Clicking drop screws on a new Steinway

 

Fired off too early in the morning.  Yes drop screws are on the hammer
flange and pulling that action rail would allow you to glue with ease
without fear of leaks.  Seems those screws should be tough enough to take
CA.  

Good luck,
Andrew

At 08:33 AM 5/26/2006, you wrote:



Not sure how this relates.  Which rail are we talking about?  It's the drop
screws that are loose, not the let-off buttons.  The piano is in a medium to
high humidity environment (50 - 65% on average).  
 

David Love
davidlovepianos at comcast.net 
-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [ <mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org>
mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Andrew and Rebeca Anderson
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 6:03 AM
To: Pianotech List
Subject: RE: Clicking drop screws on a new Steinway
 
David,
I was going to ask about the climate the piano is in now with several items
loose.  With the details it looks more like a mixed bag.
The Steinway parts list has this:
005151 ACTION FRAME LETOFF RAIL BORED - A/B EA 54.00
There is another part that includes the buttons for more but labor costs
too!
009073 ACTION FRAME W/LETOFF BUTTONS - A/B EA 292.00
You are still stuck with regulating them all into position but that does
make more sense than running all the old ones out of the old rail and then
into the new rail.  I haven't tried it, but removing the rail and running
thinned lacquer down by all the screws might tighten things up and
weatherize the wood.  Perhaps it won't flow in easily.  I'd be worried about
broken drop screws with CA (I'd definitely remove the rail for a CA
treatment too).

Keep us apprised of the solution and then how it holds up.

Andrew Anderson

At 11:34 PM 5/25/2006, you wrote:

Yes, I do understand the word warranty and at this point it's not a question
of warranty or not.  It's getting fixed and because my customer insisted on
it as part of the terms of the sale, the dealer is paying me to do the fixes
(of course, they haven't sent me a check yet).  Whether it's warranty or
dealer prep or anything else, it still has to be fixed.  The fixes will be
based on my recommendations and I'm looking for something short of rehanging
hammers on new shanks or replacing wippens that might have the same problem.
The piano was "prepped" as it were, and so far I've had to ease the jack
pinning, repin all the hammer flanges, remove, polish and realign the damper
wires to reduce noise and drag, ease the guide rail bushings, increase the
dip so I didn't have to set the blow at 37 mm to get any aftertouch (not
many leads in this action though).  Still have a few buzzes and whistles to
deal with, the treble side of the action is moved in too far (strike point
is correct) and it's creating a small problem getting the una corda to shift
quietly (but at least the sharps aren't knocking against the fallboard).
You know, normal stuff.  

David Love
davidlovepianos at comcast.net 
-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [ mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
Behalf Of Erwinspiano at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 8:55 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: Clicking drop screws on a new Steinway
 
 HI  David
  In the spirit of Jon Pages post.  Our new word for today is
W-A-R-R-A-N-T-Y.
Repeat after me boys & girls...... warranty.  A 70 k piano has
Warr....an....ty.
  Pinning the shanks!! Clicking drop screws.  I suggest a phone call to the
factory yes ir ee.
  Perhaps the remedy is to buy German.  They seem to have gotten it right
   Dale
Re your other message, it is disturbing (actually the piano costs $70,000).
The shanks require repining (all of them were way too loose), and many jacks
required easing as they were too tight.  It's why I've given up on their
parts.   
David Love
davidlovepianos at comcast.net 
 
 
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