Pin flexing/bending/twisting

David Skolnik davidskolnik at optonline.net
Mon Nov 6 07:43:25 MST 2006


Dave -
The most difficult aspect of responding to your question(s) is to 
navigate through the "triggers" that would ultimately derail an 
otherwise intelligent discussion of a reasonable question(s). Not 
wanting to point any fingers, I'll just sort of lean in Mic Sprekne's 
(name misspelled to protect identity) direction.  I thoroughly 
respect Ric Mic's formidable body of contributions, but, to prove to 
myself that he's human, I'll occasionally look for something to 
criticize.  I think the last post in this thread dallied 
unnecessarily in the danger zone...false beats and round or flat 
earth controversy!  While it may ultimately be related, there could 
be so much to talk about before succumbing to the urge for 
combat.  DOWN!  (there's always the midterm elections tomorrow ta 
quench yr thirst fr blood, matey!)

I write "question(s)" because it IS two questions... tuning pin and 
pinblock.  This has nothing to do with bridge, bridge pins or false 
beats, but you would want to be able to distinguish the behavior of 
the tuning pin, as distinct from the block, in the almost infinite 
permutations.  I said almost.  For the pins, consider the size, 
composition, finish, consistency, method of fabrication, more.  The 
block...material selection, style (glue to wood ratio), drilling 
techniques, more.  Not to mention tuning pin bushings.

To look for distinctively 'negative' effects seems unnecessarily 
limiting.  To me, the more interesting draw of your subject is the 
understanding of tuning pin behavior given a range of variables.  I'm 
more interested in the impact on the tuning process.  Like, for 
example, the difference in the internal pin stresses between a piano 
such as Ed Foote described and one which might have, say, 110 lbs. 
torque, or less.  How thoroughly do we neutralize the stresses 
induced in the first instance?  What is the role of flexing/bending 
(same thing?)/twisting compared to turning in the process of fine tuning?

See - I can't ask just one question either.  Besides - if Ron's 
committee did conclude that there were negative aspects to tuning, 
would you change the nature of your business to have your customers 
pay you for NOT tuning?  Now there's a thought.  Work you can do from home!

David Skolnik
Hastings on Hudson, NY







At 11:23 PM 11/4/2006, you wrote:
>Has anyone done a study of the negative effects that occur to a 
>tuning pin or the pinblock while tuning? I service a new-ish 7' 
>Bosendorfer for a Boeing engineer, who is a hobbist with older 
>uprights and we've been discussing the rigors the pin endures while 
>being twisted and flexed, and also the affect on the pinblock.
>
>Dave Davis, RPT
>Renton, WA

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