I'm curious. Who's going to pay for that? The dealer? The customer who just bought an "inexpensive" grand? I doubt it! :-) Avery At 09:52 AM 11/8/2006, you wrote: >Many medium quality pianos can be turned into screaming performers >with some modifications: good hammers, good bass strings, and a >thorough regulation that includes proper set up of the keys. > >Dean > > >---------- >From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] >On Behalf Of William Benjamin >Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 10:13 AM >To: 'Pianotech List' >Subject: RE: [BULK] key weight > >Alan, > >You are right, there is a lot left out there in the world that I >have to learn. I once got into a conversation with a person who >kept driving it home that the up weight was probably more important >than the down weight. This was a person an a university that nursed >wonderful Steinways all day long. I am out in the trenches where >they tune the piano once every ten years or when a key sticks. Also >I am selling medium quality pianos and I admit that they probably >don't compare with the high brow tuners choice of >instruments. Still, it would be nice to think that with all my >effort that some reasonable down weight might be a good beginning >point, then I can begin to approach those institutions where they >baby grand's that don't even get dusty. > >William > > > > >PIANO BOUTIQUE >William Benjamin >Piano Tuner Extraordinaire ><http://www.pianoboutique.biz>www.pianoboutique.biz >The tuner alone, >preserves the tone. > > >---------- >From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] >On Behalf Of Alan McCoy >Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:31 PM >To: 'Pianotech List' >Subject: RE: [BULK] key weight > >Hi William, > >I think you would do well to read some back issues of the Journal. >Specifically some articles by Bill Spurlock for an understanding of >traditional touchweight and action weigh-off concepts. Then read the >articles by David Stanwood on the New Touchweight Metrology for a >more sophisticated approach to thinking about action weight. There >are other articles as well. All of the conventions have classes on >this topic that will help you come to a better understanding of >action analysis. It'll take some digging on your part. Expect to >spend a year or so devouring all that has been written and >experimenting with actions. If you don't have back issues, you can >buy the reprints and the journal on CD. > >There are some numbers that manufacturers throw out, but such >numbers don't really have much meaning. It is usually downweight >that they are talking about in my experience and downweight alone >doesn't really shed much useful light on how an action might >perform. So from my perspective, I just wouldn't pay attention to >the man behind the curtain. > >IMHO, > >Alan > > >--Alan McCoy, RPT >Inland Northwest Chapter >Spokane, WA >ahm at webband.com > > > >---------- >From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] >On Behalf Of William Benjamin >Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 12:37 PM >To: Pianotech List >Subject: [BULK] key weight >Importance: Low >List, > >I was in a store in Orlando over the weekend and heard a Kawai rep >helping with a sale. This was a sales rep not a tec man. His >comment that raised my attention was that there pianos were at 60 >grams touch weight, which is a standard on Steinway, Yamaha and all >quality pianos. > >Now that I have your atention let me tell you that I have gone to >NAMM shows before and asked that very question, "what is the >standard for touch weight" and no one would give me a strait >answer. I also know that most pianos that I see, good grand's, are >indeed around 60 grams. > >Now can anyone give me a strait forward answer? What is the touch >weight that I should be looking for in medium to high quality grand >pianos today. I have heard people brag about 52 grams and such, but >I just don't see it. I have run a gram weight scale on every key >from 1 to 88 on a lot of pianos and on my new pianos I have brought >the weight from 68 to 70 down to 62 and 60 on a lot of keys. After >that I have lubed, repinned and removed mass from the hammer heals, >but, you guessed it, it never gets much below 60. > >Any one want to give me some guidance? > >William > > > > > >PIANO BOUTIQUE >William Benjamin >Piano Tuner Extraordinaire ><http://www.pianoboutique.biz>www.pianoboutique.biz >The tuner alone, >preserves the tone. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20061108/5a290636/attachment.html
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