Hi Ed I like the way you're thinking. I don't have a hourly rate, but I take the time to do the job in consideration when quoting for larger repairs, and I do charge a call-out fee, even if I only have to quote on a job, or if I have to evaluate a piano. Although, I do not charge a call-out fee together with my tuning price. In general piano technicians in South Africa are scared to have this type of approach. I know quite a few who do not even charge a call-out fee, I do not care what fellow piano technicians or customers think about my prices, I charge what I feel my work to be worth. Unfortunately I'm not the cheapest in town, but I still have quite enough work. For all my customers, the quality of my work is much more important than the price they are going to pay for it. In the beginning I got quite upset with technicians charging far below my rate. One can only do so much work in one day - and if you're working hard every day, and you can still not make ends meet, you're fees are probably too low. I know quite a few struggling technicians in SA, but they won't put there rates up, too. Afraid that there might be a tech working cheaper than they are, and they might then not get the job. Now, I'm happy with my rates as is, for I know I also won't make it if I do the work any cheaper. I also pay my two assistants accordingly, for I want them to stay with me, be happy in there work, and do proper work as well. Kallie Swanepoel Piano Tuner/Klavierstemmer Skype Name: KallieSwanepoel Phone: +27 (0) 12 379 3762 Mobile: +27 (0) 83 261 6942 Voice Link: +27 (0) 88 129 8775 Fax: +27 (0) 86 633 2999 http://www.kallieswanepoel.co.za -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of A440A at aol.com Sent: 13 November 2006 05:31 To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: service call charges << I would like to know when you do and do not charge for service calls. Tunings? Repairs? Returning to pull a new string up to pitch? I know a tech who starts charging by the hour as soon as he gets in his car. What works for you and your clients? >> Greetings, This pricing business depends on the individual's reputation more than anything else. The longer a self-employed person is in business, the more they know, (or should). Thus, their time is more valuable than the beginner. The longer they have been doing quality work, the stronger their reputation, the more trusted they are, the more they are worth to discriminating customers. That being said, I submit we all owe it to ourselves to make our time as valuable as possible. That is why we stand the expense of conventions, seminars, etc. Even though my prices for private customers are high, I can easily justify a somewhat reduced rate at the University because I do so much work over there on my own schedule, and the credibility of being associated with the school makes it easy for me to have a continuing supply of customers elsewhere. I don't spend a penny on advertising and I have more work coming at me than I can do. I also find myself retuning the same stage pianos several times a week and I charge a regular tuning fee every time I hit the stage, even though it is often that it takes far less time to leave the piano in tune on successive visits. The recording studios are usually looking for "competitively" priced tuners, so I was glad to finally price myself out of that end of the business. I charge from the time I leave my shop until the work is done. This effectively makes my travel time pay only half as much as time on site. If I replace a string in a piano, I charge a regular hourly rate, (which isn't much for a string, I admit), and usually will not charge to stop by and retune it when I am in the area, again. It depends on how much of my time it takes to do this. Sometimes, it is only a 5 minute chore and the customer relations end of the business is better served to have done it gratis. Consider that auto mechanics can average $ 75-90 per hour, plumbers often charge $ 80 per hour, electricians that or more, and copier technicians average about $ 150 per hour. How many copiers cost as much as a grand piano? A tuning visit that takes 90 minutes and pays $135 means that after local taxes (10%) you have $ 122. Then overhead (that phone you use, the car and its expenses, cost of tools, etc), takes another 10% so you then have $ 110. Uncle Sam and FICA are going to take 30% of that, so you may end up with $ 75 for that job. Say you do four of these a day, five days a week, you are taking home $ 1500 per week. That is a heavy tuning load and after a number of years, you will probably need medical expenses. A good rule of thumb is that if you are booked months in advance, you are not charging enough, and if the phone is not ringing at all, you are charging too much for your reputation to support. The fear of losing customers because you are charging too much will cost you far more in the long run than the actual loss of a few customers. If nobody is complaining or questioning your price, you are not charging enough, because there are customers out there that will complain about any price! Ed Foote RPT http://www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/index.html www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html
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