Dampp-Chaser wattage needed

BRETT GLASS bgpianoman at email.com
Sat Oct 7 16:25:36 MDT 2006


          I'm interested in knowing how to determine the total
          or minimum amount of heater bar watts are needed to
          install on any given piano .  First a little
          background on why I'm asking .  I started installing
          the full systems when I lived in the Mid-west . Now
          I'm in Hawaii . When I got here I noticed that most
          if not all the pianos I worked on had 25 watt  (or
          lower) bars in them with no stats . The pianos were
          in bad shape;  rusted  & broken strings, cracks,
          hammer felts coming off, etc. .  A lot of them were
          less than 15 years old , and the ones that were
          closer to 25 years old are now shot .  In most cases
          the cost of repairs is more than the value of the
          piano . My thought was what a waste it was of the
          instrument . And most of the customers didn't
          understand why I felt humidity was the culprit when
          the dealers & techs in the area had sold them a
          dehumidity system that was going to protect their
          pianos.  I handled this as best possible for the
          first 4 years I was out here, telling customers and
          dealers as the issue came up . Most of the time it
          fell on deaf ears, and always with the dealers . They
          said, "this is the way we have done it for over 25
          years".  I can see that . So I let it go until a
          new ( I won't say the model or name brand but lets
          just say it was a 7' 6" grand ) got delivered to
          Hana, one of the wettest and most humid areas on the
          island . One thing I learned very quickly out here is
          that some areas are like  a desert climate and others
          are like a rain forest - with everything else in
          between. So when I first talked to the customer I
          asked if he purchased a Dampp-Chaser system . More
          likely I knew from past history with this dealer that
          a single low watt heater bar under 25 watts had been
          included and pitched as what the customer needed to
          control humidity .  "Yes", he said, "and they said
          you would be installing it" . So you can see where
          this is going . We now have a dealer & a technician
          not on the same page, and looking very unprofessional
          to the customer . So this all blew up on the dealer.
           Not what I wanted to happen,  but it's not like I
          didn't try to prevent it .

          I called Dampp-Chaser after a somewhat  heated
          discussion with the dealer, on his part telling me
          that I had to restate what I had told the
          customer, because on the DC web site for techs, it
          states that it is okay to use a 25 watt (or less)
          heater bar without a stat .  I also talked with the
          piano manufacturers' service manager, whose main
          concern was for the customer.  Mine too, as well as
          for the piano!  I guess he thought I should have
          talked with the dealer first.  I told him that I had,
          with no change in how they sold or expected me to
          install the system.  He stated that they back the
          systems as long as they were installed properly.  And
          then I asked, "so what is a proper installation in
          your eyes?  He said, "You need to talk to
          Dampp-Chaser."   They responded very quickly to an
          email I sent them, and followed up with a phone call
          about my problem.  After talking with them, they
          could not answer my question either.  I got the old
          adage, "the piano will tell you If the pitch is not
          stable".  I find it hard to believe that they don't
          have some kind of an idea what minimum wattage would
          be required to keep the soundboard at about 7% water
          content, and the piano at about 42% RH, as I have
          read in their technical information.   It looks like
          they have done their homework.  No, I know they have.
           But I find it odd they could not answer this
          question.  To me, adding a 25 watt (or less) heater
          bar would be like installing an A/C system with a
          given amount of cooling capacity(less than you would
          need at peak demand), turned on high full time, and
          then expecting it to keep the temperature the same as
          the sun comes up, or clouds and storms move through.
           The customer comes home and opens the house in the
          evening to the nice trade wind ocean breezes, or
          starts a fire in the wood burning stove.  Yes, we do
          have areas in the higher elevations up on the
          volcanoes, where some of my customers have wood
          burning stoves.  Granted, the drying effect would not
          be as great as in the mid-west, where they are run
          for days at a time, but I would think that a DC stat
          would turn off after a few hours if it was near that
          stove.  So, is this a guessing game based on pianos
          we have serviced over the years?  (25w, 35w, 50w, or
          a total on longer grands, where I know they have
          found that more than one heater bar is needed.)   In
          that case, it's always going to be over the 25 watt
          level, which is why the dealer lost this round.  But
          what about the other pianos out there?   I had let
          this run in the back of my mind the past month or so,
          until a Chickering Grand showed up at my shop
          yesterday that had been re-strung and worked over in
          the past.  It had about 20 broken keys, brick hard
          newer hammers, and rust on all of the strings . And
          guess what I found under the soundboard?  A 15 watt
          heater bar with no stat!

          I guess my real question is, why would anyone open
          the door for people to be misguided by a statement on
          that web site, misuse the product and, in my opinion,
          cause confusion that could lead to damage of a
          customer's piano?  DC told me that for now it will
          stay as stated.  I asked them if they could add a
          footnote that this will not get the job done in most
          cases, however they would like to word it.  I don't
          think they have ever done so.  The way they stated it
          to me makes me think that there is more to this,
          maybe some kind of a disagreement on this issue.  We
          all know how hard change is.  Or maybe I'm wrong.  If
          so, please explain to me why.  I'm not one to be told
          something is right without also being shown the facts
          to back it up.  And the facts I have are that all of
          these pianos I'm servicing over here are not
          protected at 25 or less watts with no stat.  Any
          input on this situation would be greatly
          appreciated. 

          Brett Glass

          A Sharp PIano Service, Maui

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