I use these to secure bass bridge aprons and sound boards in verticals http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/0610-PTF/100-6-x-1-Fine-Thread-Pocket-Hole-Dry-Lube-Screws Many times there is no need to drill a pilot hole. With the ball tip driver, I can guide them right through the strings. http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/HB-0274/2-Ball-Tip-Screw-Driver -- Regards, Jon Page
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