Hi Joe, I love your metaphor of sneaking up on the desired result! Yes, pliers being more controllable is what I imagined. The one and only time I used them on a whole set, I was very pleased with the rapid result. It was just what was required. And I think using pliers you would get more of a "feel" for the right pressure than with the Vise-Grip. But I've not tried the Vise-Grip so I can't say. Does anyone else use an ordinary domestic iron for hammers? I have often found that very effective after hammer filing, especially on older birdcage actions. You can get a quantum leap in tone quality by a quick refacing of deeply grooved hammers and a quick ironing, and it gives the client a chuckle when you ask for the iron! I am not here talking of subtle voicing work on high quality pianos of course. Best, David. "Like most skills used in piano repair/work there is a learning curve. Starting in the tenor of most spinnettes is a good place to start. Yah can't hurt anything and will quickly get a feel for the tool. IMHO Pliers are the more controlable tool to use. Not every hammer is the same and it is best to sneak up on the result wanted rather than over do it. Joe Goss RPT Mother Goose Tools"
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