Steinway action noise

[Greg Newell]

David,
	We've played with that but it started off mostly nominal but uneven.

Greg

P.S. Thanks for the response about the Teflon action. My earlier thank you
got bounced somehow.

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of David Love
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 6:18 PM
To: 'Pianotech List'
Subject: RE: Steinway action noise

How much key dip is there?

David Love
davidlovepianos at comcast.net 
www.davidlovepianos.com

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Ron Nossaman
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 2:53 PM
To: Pianotech List
Subject: Re: Steinway action noise



> Greetings list members. 
> I have an action in the shop from an old "A" which was recently redone by
> someone other than me. The school didn't like my original quote and did
> something cheaper. Now they want me to fix the rather pronounced click and
> heavy feel when keys are played. 

Gee, never heard of anything like that ever happening.


>I admit to being a bit puzzled by this one.
> The problem is that the jack tip on a forte blow contacts the underside of
> the hammer flange producing the click. 

Is that possible? Any chance of some photos from a foot or two 
back showing parts positions at rest, and with the key depressed?


>The action
> spread for the "L" is 111mm and the "A" is 110mm. 

That's in the ballpark.


>Neither action is anywhere
> near in compliance with the magic line theory. Just so I understand it's
> base of key at balance rail pin to wippen flange center pin and the
capstan
> should cross that line during half key travel 

Yes, give or take.


>and the other being wippen
> flange center pin to hammer flange center pin and the base of the knuckle
> should cross the line at half key travel. Sure hope I'm wrong here since
> neither of the actions is even close. 

Congratulations, you're wrong here. <G> There are only a few 
action types this works on, and Steinway isn't one.


There are also double felts on the
> keystick ends for damper lift if that is any kind of a clue to someone. 

??


>Also
> new white keytops were installed but the keystick was not milled down to
> accommodate the new thicker plastics. 

No problem. They weren't filed to the key width anyway, and if 
they have fronts, the originals are still there underneath, or 
if they don't have fronts, the overhang is random.


>I have some budget with which to work
> this out but I can't go too nuts. I'm hoping to retain the new (old) parts
> since much of their money will need to be spent on my time. Any ideas?
> 
> All the best,
> Greg Newell

Other than no mercy? Some photos of the setup might help.
Ron N