Hi Jon Dorr I just wanted to commend your outside the box thinking on the topic of key travel/Dip. It obviously stimulated a lot of discussion & proved once again that great minds can think a like or .....Not!. but each has a different way of doing one thing common to us all that we are comfortable with. Your way will give insight to many. There are other ways to measure the complete action movement which i will report on later. Bob D. got me thinking about his comment about changing action ratio thru the course of entire movement.(which is true) & so I wanted to check out some other things. For what tis' worth.....The action ratio gauge isn't designed to give as accurate an overall ratio as say a complete Stanwood analysis but it will be close enough to get some very good info. for a starting point Dale Dale I'm writing an article about regulating pianos when you don't have specifications. I'll paste in the simple nuts and bolts of it below. I'd appreciate your feedback. I know there are some setup caveats and pitfalls, and some other considerations, but rather than lay all of them out, I thought I'd wait and hear from you guys about what you see as strong points, weak points, yeah buts, and any other considerations. Anyway, here's a simple rough draft: No Regulation Specs? Regulate by action ratio analysis! What if you had no regulation specs, or the specs you had were not working out. Wouldn’t it be great if there was a way that you could come up with workable specs in minutes? Specs that you could custom design depending on your performance priorities? I got to thinking that if you knew what the action ratio was on a piano, you could just do the math and come up with a workable set of specs to regulate it with. By making algebraic equations of the variables, you could even customize a regulation based on what your priorities were, be it key dip or blow distance. Here’s how it works: First you determine what the action ratio is by measuring how much the hammer moves compared to how much the key moves. (Mechanical Action Ratio, or MAR) You’ll need to move the key LESS than letoff and eliminate lost motion first, so you can directly measure the hammer movement that results from key movement. Now say you move the key down ¼” and the hammer moves 1 ¼”. You divide the hammer movement by the key movement and discover an action ratio of 5:1. With this number, you can now determine regulation specs for blow distance, key dip, letoff and aftertouch. Let’s just say you want something typical like a 3/8” key dip, 1/8” letoff, and .050” aftertouch. (Later I’ll show the equations for solving for different variables) Given the 3/8” key dip (.375”) and the .050” aftertouch, we subtract aftertouch from key dip and know then that we have .325” of useable key dip to move the hammer. How far will it move? It will move 5xs the amount of keydip. 5 x .325” = 1.625”. But that’s not the hammer blow distance, because we haven’t accounted for letoff. If we want 1/8” (.125”) letoff, we need to ADD that to the hammer travel of 1.625”, so the blow distance is then 1.75”, or 1 ¾”. OK, let’s make that work out algebraicly. Key travel = Kt Hammer travel = Ht Action Ratio = Ar Blow Distance = Bd Key Dip = Kd Aftertouch = At Letoff = Lo Equation 1: Determine Action Ratio Ht/Kt = Ar Equation 2: Determine Blow Distance (you pick key dip, aftertouch and letoff specs, as in the above example) Bd = [(Kd – At) x Ar] + Lo Equation 3: Determine Key Dip (you pick blow distance, aftertouch, and letoff) Step one: determine Hammer Travel Bd – Lo = Ht Step two: determine Key Travel for that hammer travel Ht/Ar = Kt Step three: add desired aftertouch to Key Travel to get Key Dip. Kt + At = Kd OK, Lemme know whatcha think! John Dorr, RPT (<--- brand NEW RPT, but I love writing this!) Helena, MT **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20080207/d7ce06aa/attachment.html
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