Scaling/Restringing Problem on 1909 5' Ivers & Pond #46320

Farrell mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com
Wed May 21 16:13:41 MDT 2008


I'm glad you posted this Del. I was going to say more or less the same thing - didn't want to sound like I was lecturing someone (not that you do!). But I agree, rescaling is automatically on my to-do list whenever restringing.

Terry Farrell
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Delwin D Fandrich 
  To: 'Pianotech List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:34 PM
  Subject: RE: Scaling/Restringing Problem on 1909 5' Ivers & Pond #46320


  Just one more reason to always, always! include the cost of rescaling in the price of the rebuild. Even if it is just for the peace of mind in knowing that the scale is as good as it can be for a given piano. Even if you were to find the wire size numbers in Travis' book there is no assurance that these numbers will give you anything like a good, responsive stringing scale. Many, if not most, early scales were haphazard at best. If you don't care to get into the math of scaling yourself there are many of us who can do this work for you. For a fee, of course.

  ddf



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    From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Michael Magness
    Sent: May 21, 2008 5:15 AM
    To: Pianotech List; caut at ptg.org
    Subject: Scaling/Restringing Problem on 1909 5' Ivers & Pond #46320


    I brought this piano in for a full rebuild and removed bass/wound strings first, which extend to D3 in this particular scale, so as to take all of the measurements, rubbings and info to send to James Arledge.
    The problem arose when I turned to the Travis guide to restringing to find the scale, there were three possibilities, one was labeled "82", the piano I'm working on has "83" cast into the plate in 2" letters, one had a number(serial number?) lower than mine #42164, the last was just an I&P scale.
    As I began checking wire sizes none of them matched any of the scales from the book, not even the scale for the 5'3" I&P!

    Checking at appropriate intervals I found, #14 wire on 88&87, 13&1/2 on 84, 14 on 81, 14 & 1/2 on 80, 14 on 75, 15 on 72 & 70 and finally found 16 on 62. Number 56 is #22 wire!!! 

    From the look and condition of the piano I'm relatively certain all strings are originals or any replacements are very old so as to appear original. 

    If anyone has any info they can share about this instrument or has rebuilt one in the past and wishes to share their experience, it would be greatly appreciated.

    I did not expect nor include in the estimate a rescale but am prepared to do so barring any other info.

    Thanks,
    Mike

    -- 
    Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence. 
    Vince Lombardi

    Michael Magness
    Magness Piano Service
    608-786-4404
    www.IFixPianos.com
    email mike at ifixpianos.com 
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