Weickert Special-By Wurzen

[Gevaert Pierre]

Hi André,

 

I  am also much interested in your book about voicing. Voicing  is and has
always been the most dificult item for me. 

(Even afther your great demonstration in Brussels years ago !) 

 

This Weickert Special felt is intrigueing me as I’ve installed my first set
of Wurzen A (not AA) onto an old German grand and these seems to be a lot
to hard for me (and also to big) 

I thought this Wurzen A felt would be much softer. I’m surprised that you
say that they are to soft for you.

Maybe I had a set that was harder than usually.

The old (ruined) hammers were verry soft and elastic and still sounded verry
nice.That’s why I’d like to try to  needle them like hell to mach the same
softness of the original ones. 

It seems to me that a soft elastic hammer can sound as clear as a hard
hammer but not so hard.

 

So André, what would you think that could happen when needling a Wurzen A
hammer unrtil it gets a bit spongy like the oldys ?? (‘not  in the trebble
of course !)

 

I think I would like to live in the US  as a tech  because of this different
approach of hammer hardness.

 

Maybe this Weickert Special is what I’m looking for.

 

Kind regards,

 

Pierre Gevaert

 

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De : pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] De la part
de andré oorebeek
Envoyé : jeudi 16 octobre 2008 20:45
À : Pianotech List
Objet : Re: Weickert Special-By Wurzen

 

Hi Dale and Listers,

 

Except from this list, I have not yet heard about the new "Weickert Special
by Wurzen" here in Europe.

I find that strange.

I will of course ask Renner, traditionally the Wurzen felt hammer maker.

 

I wonder about the hardness of this Weickert Special?

These last years new Wurzen felt hammers were a bit soft. I have learned how
to solve that problem, but I have asked Renner Europe to do something about
that.

I am a bit afraid that this new top quality felt might be too soft as well.

We are in agreement that Jack Brand's felt is the best hammer felt in the
world, but, as I mentioned before, the AA quality was too dense to my taste.

Too much needling and a weight problem.

 

I therefor am happy with my Wurzen A from Renner.

I am of course curious though and open to try it out.

I will contact Jack Brand and Renner.

 

My book?

It is in the hands of our friend Jurgen Goering.

I trust him completely and he is in charge.

I am in the process of taking the pictures and it will be a very nice book.

It's actually the very first 'service manual for voicing technicians' and it
describes in detail the whole process of how to voice new hammers and used
hammers, plus a complete description of the materials, the tools and the
methods, the differences between brands etc etc.

It will be published in English, but I will leave the actual date of coming
out to Jurgen.

 

friendly greetings
from
André Oorebeek

Antoni van Leeuwenhoekweg 15

1401 VW, Bussum

the Netherlands

 

tel :    +31 35 6975840

gsm : +31 652 388008


"where Music is, no harm can be"

 

 

 

 

On Oct 16, 2008, at 3:00 AM, erwinspiano at aol.com wrote:






  Hi Andre
  Good to hear from you on this as I know you have championed the cause of
excellent feltand have been  a staunch proponent of properly pressed
hammers. Both as you say is so important.
 It's nice to know Renner makes a hammer you can work with there. Renner USA
in the states has also been a long and trusted  supporter of Wurzen Felt co.
& the Brand family. In fact, from the very beginning Lloyd Meyer Of Renner
U.S.A. signed up with Jack to reintroduce the quality felt made in that
plant. The Quality of The Renner USA product shows the Commitment of Lloyd &
Donna Meyer to this endeavor. We are directly and indirectly in there debt
as they were one of Jacks first clients when the plant reopened in 1992.
 Consequently Jack has passionately pursued the making of Fine Hammer felt
using many of the original J.D Weickert co. formulas and protocols.
  The Wurzen made felts have been called  thus far and are Known by the
felt grades of... Wurzen..  A ... and AA.
  I want to be clear that this latest iteration is  known by the now
trademarked name the "Weickert special by Wurzen" and is a fairly dramatic
shift up the quality line in terms of felt science and technology.  In fact
Ray,Jack and I discoverd that it is so dramatically different that w e
decided it required this name.    
   All the Hammer felts Wurzen makes are fine quality and this new Weickert
special by Wurzen  gives us another huge compliment to our tonal arsenals &
huge a move toward the future of a more musical piano tone.
    I will truthfully say that Jack is a true artisan felt maker who is also
as equally passionate about this endeavor as technicians. This strkies me as
odd because Jacks Wurzen co. make so many felt products and hammer felt is
small part of the felt making operation. Yet, he loves it. You know...we are
all passionate about something. Jacks is felt & ours is tone
 My Friends we have a true ally in our business & he is my friend, Jack . My
only regret is we didn't meet sooner. Perhaps we can get him to teach at our
conventions more frequently.
  Andre, I'm looking forward to getting a copy of your voicing book. WHen
does it come out?
  Dale Erwin



You guys seem to forget that Renner makes very beautiful hammers here in
Europe, with.. Wurzen felt.

I have been in contact with Jack Brand for a long time, and I have followed
the development of his 'Wurzen felt' right from the start, after the reunion
of the two Germany's.

I have had this fantastic felt for a=2 0long time now and I never ever want
any other felt.

Because of my age, (I am 59) I am a typical example of a generation that was
forced to learn voicing with the felt that was for sale as an alternative
for the Weickert felt, simply because the Weickert felt was not produced
anymore after the Soviets entered East Germany.

Getting acquainted with the 'new' Wurzen felt was a surprising discovery!
even though it was in its early stages of development after all those years.

I have actually learned to voice this renewed Weickert felt, which was named
Wurzen felt after the town where it is made (Wurzen), at Yamaha, because
they were, I guess, one of the very first ones (together with Steinway, to
use the new Wurzen felt on their CFIII-S.

I do not really like the AA standard because it is, according to me, too
dense and too heavy, and it takes much longer to voice than the single A
standard which is my favorite.

The real secret of having a fine success with these hammers is :

1. the quality of the wool

2. the quality of the felt

3. the quality of the hammer maker

4. the quality of the technician

 

I have been able to influence Renner to make a hammer for me, according to
my taste.

That makes all the difference! and that is , I guess, is what Ray Negron is
doing.

He (Ray Negron)20told me that his father used Weickert felt in the old days.

Because of our contact, years ago, and through the willingness of Jack
Brand, the Weickert/Wurzen felt came back to Ronsen and back to the US.

 

friendly greetings
from
André Oorebeek


 

 

 

 

 

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