[pianotech] offset of SAT to non-440

William Monroe bill at a440piano.net
Tue Aug 4 09:05:56 MDT 2009


Well,

OK, but I was actually replying to David Nereson as to why, after inputing
the FAC numbers, his A4 was reading slightly flat.

William R. Monroe




On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 9:43 AM, David Ilvedson <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Yes, you missed something...I'm offsetting the pitch, i.e A4 will not be
> A440.   The FAC numbers are entered and stored on a page of memory.   At
> that point I offset the pitch, then pull up the page for that piano...
>
> David Ilvedson, RPT
> Pacifica, CA  94044
>
>
> >David,
>
> >Don't forget that after you've offset the pitch, you've then gone through
> >the FAC procedure which requires you to tune A4 at it's second partial
> (A5)
> >and then read it at A6 to get the A offset.  In other words, you've
> changed
> >that A4 that you measured to offset pitch when you established the FAC
> >numbers.  So, the fact that A4 is now flat is because you've changed it
> from
> >where it was, no?  Did I miss something?  Hope that helps.
>
> >William R. Monroe
>
>
>
> >On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:41 PM, David Nereson <da88ve at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>   First of all, I did call Inventronics about this first, but just
> couldn't
> >> seem to get "on the same page."
> >>   This time of year, most pianos are sharp from summer humidity.  Rather
> >> than lower them all down to A440, knowing they'll need a pitch raise in
> >> November if I do, I just tune them sharp.  This requires offsetting the
> SAT
> >> to a sharper pitch.
> >>   Following the outlined procedure in the instruction manual, I turn the
> >> unit on, press Tune, then play A4 on the piano, then press the Cents Up
> >> button on the SAT (III) until the lights stop, then press Shift, Reset.
>  The
> >> unit should now be offset to the higher pitch.  Then I go ahead and
> measure
> >> the SAT numbers and store them to a page in memory.  Before starting in
> to
> >> tune, I go to A4 on the SAT and play A4 on the piano to make sure the
> lights
> >> are still stopped, i.e., that the unit is offset to the pitch of A4.
> >>   Here's the problem:  the lights are never stopped at A4 after
> performing
> >> the offset. They're always rotating counterclockwise, indicating that A4
> is
> >> flat!  Well, I don't want to raise the piano any sharper!  Why, after
> having
> >> supposedly offset the unit's reference point, does it still show A4 as
> flat?
> >>  Should I have A5 or A6 in the window when I offset? (I've tried both,
> and
> >> it doesn't seem to make any difference.) The guy at Inventronics said to
> >> "drop down a couple cents," or to "leave off a couple cents" or
> something
> >> like that, but I'm not sure what he meant.
> >>   In reality, I don't raise the whole piano to the sharpness of the low
> >> tenor, which is usually the sharpest area of the piano.  I'll lower the
> low
> >> tenor some, leave the treble where it is, and maybe pull the bass up a
> tad.
> >>  On older pianos, I don't like to have to pull the bass up ANY, because
> of
> >> possible string breakage, but if I don't then I have to lower all of the
> >> tenor and treble, and do a pitch raise when November comes along.  And
> these
> >> school systems don't want to tune more than once a year if they can get
> away
> >> with it.
> >>   But I digressed.  Why don't the lights stand still after having
> >> supposedly offset the pitch?
> >>   --David Nereson, RPT
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
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