Don wrote: > Hi all, > > So what order would you place on instability factors during a pitch > correction. Here is a non ordered list of a few I can think of. Please add > any other factors that may be significant. Hey Don, I thought we'd pretty much pounded this into the ground (again) a couple of weeks ago, but apparently not. You didn't differentiate between pitch drop with the pitch correction, and instability after the tuning is accomplished, which if we are to have any hope at all of understanding anything connected with the process, we need to do. They ain't the same thing. My "opinion", such as it's worth. > plate flex Very likely, with initial pitch drop. Not with instability. > sound board compression Not with pitch drop, not with instability. Basically - not. > changes in bends in wire Not with initial pitch drop. Reasonably possible long term. > hitch pin movement > tuning pin angle change Very unlikely, either initially, or later. > main wooden frame dimensional change Possible, but involving plate deformation, which puts it with the first one. > pin block torsional change Lacking any evidence whatsoever, no. > twisting of bridge horizontally ??? > twisting of bridge vertically Ah yes, bridge roll. A traditional favorite industry mirage. If this is a factor, it's in conjunction with strings rendering through bridges, reluctance of, being the culprit for possibly both (some) initial pitch drop with the pitch raise, or later instability. If the bridge actually rolls, it's because of insufficient support (soundboard failure), or a pathological failure of strings rendering through the bridge pins with the pitch raise. I'm currently convinced that the biggest factor in instability after the fact is strings not reliably rendering through bridges (or utterly incompetent tuners, which seem to be less all pervasive than render challenged bridges). Even if this results in "bridge roll", that makes bridge roll an effect of inadequate rendering, and not a cause of instability. IOW, a mirage. There will be more and differing opinions, as usual, and probably some intuitive stuff. Ron N
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