[pianotech] Collard & Collard revisited

Farrell mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com
Fri Jan 9 04:53:03 PST 2009


Bob brings up a good question - "why this piano is so low in pitch".  I've only run across one piano five half-steps flat - and that was an 1870s American upright that was known to not have been tuned for a good 100 years. Makes sense to me that it would take about that long for a structurally sound piano to go that flat.

If you look at this piano from the side, any chance the plate looks like a sideways "U"?

Terry Farrell
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bobdavis88 at aol.com 
  To: pianotech at ptg.org 
  Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 6:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [pianotech] Collard & Collard revisited


  Duaine,

  Any piano service requires a partnership between the technician and the owner, but that is especially true on a piano which is in any way risky. That includes especially older instruments which haven't been serviced in a long time, or which have a unique design, or which have a weaker structure or frame. This piano qualifies in spades. I would not work on this piano at all unless I had had an extensive (paid) conversation with the client about the many (annoying/expensive/catastrophic) risks, and unless I had a good feeling the client understood and accepted those risks (usually IN WRITING). 

  I would worry specifically about why this piano is so low in pitch. Is it already buckling? If you don't have a lot of experience with this type of piano, I can tell you it's a good place to get yourself into a position where you'll look back wistfully to the time before you ever saw it.

  There's nothing wrong with working on pre-modern pianos, but they take a different skill set, and a different mind set.

  Good luck,
  Bob Davis




  -----Original Message-----
  From: Duaine & Laura Hechler <dahechler at charter.net>
  To: pianotech at ptg.org
  Sent: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 3:38 pm
  Subject: [pianotech] Collard & Collard revisited


Today, I just finished the repair and alignment of the overdampers.

The hard part - the tuning.

First, I'm having trouble getting the right tip for the pins.
- Standard #2 tip is too big
- Standard #1 tip is a little too small
- Standard square tip is a little too small
- Schaff's oblong tip is a little too big
- That leaves a rectangular tip with square corners about the size of a
"1-1/2" tip.
Where to find such a tip ?

Second, after a long while, I figured that the piano was - extremely -
flat - about 5-6 notes flat.
In trying to bring it up to pitch, two bass string sent snap.
So I'm assuming, to allow for string stretchage, I need at least two passes.
Seeking advice on this kind of pitch raise.

Thanks, Duaine

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Duaine Hechler
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Florissant, MO 63034
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www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com
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