[pianotech] Broken Grand dampers

Conrad Hoffsommer hoffsoco at luther.edu
Thu Jan 22 08:15:11 PST 2009


Bob Tate wrote:
> Hi people,
> 
> I've had to be away because of a bad back--still hurts like crazy.
> _______________
> 
> I believe a major problem may have just happened with my Estonia 190. 
> 
> I've been working on getting the una corda pedal to be just as I want 
> it, or rather make certain the hammers hit the strings in just the right 
> place when it's depressed.   (i.e., not how depressed I feel right now)
> 
> Here's what happened:
> 
> this morning, I made a minor change to a hammer flange position. I put 
> the action back in the piano.
> 
> When I pressed the una corda and let it return, the alignment looked as 
> I wanted it, the damper barely missed the left string at full una 
> corda.  The shift works properly.
> 
> Next, I pushed down the damper pedal.
> 
> All the dampers lifted as expected, however, when the pedal was 
> released, the entire set of dampers hung, just above their "at rest" 
> position.
> 
> I checked the action to make certain it was properly seated on the key 
> bed  and in the piano as far back as it could go. It is.
> 
> I tried the damper pedal again.
> 
> This time, on the damper return, I heard a "creeeek" or rather, 
> "creekcraaack." And the dampers still hung slightly above their at rest 
> position.
> 
> Not liking that "crack" sound; with the damper pedal not depressed,  I 
> lifted and let drop, each damper head,  manually.
> 
> All worked as expected, except E2 (the last damper before the end of the 
> bass bridge and before the bass/treble strut).
> Lifting it, I felt a little, loose up/down and side to side, wobble.
> Letting it drop, maked an audible "click," then, "thud" as it returned 
> to where it started.
> The thud sounded like wood on wood.
> 
> I pulled the action. Looked at and wiggled the damper flanges and wires, 
> checked for loose screws, and saw/felt nothing wrong.
> 
> With the action still out, I checked the sostenuto, which as had the 
> dampers, been working perfectly.
> 
> The sostenuto is a complete mess: dampers lift haphazardly or not at 
> all.  (The tabs all look in-line.)
> 
> Not having much grand damper repair experience, I returned the action 
> and have stopped.
> 
> I've called for reinforcements. I'm afraid this may be a major problem: 
> a broken damper rail flange or even rail itself, broken damper return 
> spring?
> 
> Any ideas of what I might be able to check, without taking apart the 
> damper mechanism (and probably making matters worse)? 
> --I know of nothing more I can do or will do, lest you have a suggestion.
> 
> what we know is: 
> the dampers hang barely above the strings when "at rest,"
> the manual lifting of E2 (last damper before the bass strut) makes an 
> audible "click" and then, wood-on-wood "thud" when allowed to drop to 
> its rest position,
> the sostenuto is a total mess,
> the shift works okay.
> 
> I won't touch it, unless it's something easy to check; but, I'd like to 
> have ideas as to what it might be.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bob T


Loose screws on damper lift tray block??

-- 
Conrad Hoffsommer, RPT - Keyboard Technician
Luther College, 700 College Dr., Decorah, Iowa 52101-1045
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