Kerry, I can! In our "Steinway School" at Snow College, Ephraim, Utah, students and faculty move pianos around at will (much to my shagrin) and I'm continually finding the legs (wedges) loose and legs ready to fall out. It did happen once, but luckily it was a front leg and it landed on the lyre with the teacher holding firm! This system can't possibly do that. I think they're doing a bit of "CYA". That's my take. Jim Busby ________________________________ From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Kerry [kerrykean at att.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:36 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Quick Question - New Type Steinway Lyre and LegAttachment I have to agree. Can anyone explain the advantage over the old system? Kerry Kean www.kerrykean.com ________________________________ From: wimblees at aol.com [mailto:wimblees at aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:56 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Quick Question - New Type Steinway Lyre and LegAttachment I don't like it, primarily because of the need for an Allen wrench. It means another tool we have to carry around to use once every 10 years. Wim -----Original Message----- From: William R. Monroe <bill at a440piano.net> To: pianotech at ptg.org Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:22 am Subject: Re: [pianotech] Quick Question - New Type Steinway Lyre and Leg Attachment Paul, the square male end slides into the female receiver. The set screw is tightened with an Allen wrench through the receiver into the male end. I like it, other than the need for an extra tool. William R. Monroe On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:48 AM, PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com<mailto:PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com> wrote: Mark: >From the picture, I can't see what the use of the Allen wrench might be. How do these actually lock together? Or just let me know the appropriate SS bulletin to reference. Thanks. Paul In a message dated 7/7/2009 7:03:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pianotech at nhpianos.com<mailto:pianotech at nhpianos.com> writes: Joe - here's a pic from a recent S&S technical bulletin. The tool needed is an 8mm or 5/16" Allen wrench. - Mark <IMAGE_151.jpg> Joe DeFazio wrote: <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Hi All, I stopped at a hall tonight very briefly to look at a rental S&S B that was just moved in for some upcoming concerts. Regulation is a disaster. I immediately noticed that one of the lyre support sticks was not installed properly by the piano movers (it was just hanging there). I also noticed that the legs attach via the new S&S method (as of the last couple of years). I have not worked on the legs or lyres of any of these new-style S&S grands before. My question is: besides the fact that the lyre is locked in place by two screws instead of a cam, is there any difference in the lyre attachment system as compared to the traditional S&S lyre? In other words, is it just sliding-dovetailed metal plates that slide forward (towards the performer) to dismount, or is it some new-fangled contraption? Yes, for the record, I like new-fangled contraptions. I like excellently engineered old-fangled contraptions, too. I will have barely enough time to take care of some serious regulation problems tomorrow between rehearsals, so if anyone can save me even a few minutes of fussing around during that brief and inadequate time, I would appreciate it. I would normally not ask a question of the list that I could figure out on my own, but in this instance, I won't have any figuring time. I also hate to go hurriedly whacking on piano parts with a mallet if, in fact, they weren't designed to be whacked. A piano is not a perky plastic mole. Thanks, Joe DeFazio Pittsburgh P.S. - I have absolutely no reason to take the legs off, but if anyone wants to remind me and the list how the new leg mounting system works, I bet I'm not the only list member who read about it some time ago and forgot it since.... </div> ________________________________ An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps!<http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585089x1201462806/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=JulyExcfooterNO62> ________________________________ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!<http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585089x1201462806/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=JulystepsfooterNO62> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20090708/25789fbc/attachment-0001.htm>
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