[pianotech] Quick Question - New Type Steinway Lyre and LegAttachment

Andrew Anderson anrebe at gmail.com
Thu Jul 9 09:34:07 MDT 2009


The allen screw is not to be removed.  Sauter concert grands all  
feature these, and I do say, "They are the cat's meow."  I'm looking  
at converting my wifes concert grand to this as the other things are  
just too wobbly.

Andrew Anderson

On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:49 AM, wimblees at aol.com wrote:

> What and how will it be held in place when the allen screw is lost  
> by movers? With Samic legs, the bolts are pretty big, and easy to  
> pack. But that small set screw can easily be swept away, or dropped  
> in the grass. Why did they feel the need to change a good system?
>
> Wim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Busby <jim_busby at byu.edu>
> To: pianotech at ptg.org <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:31 pm
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Quick Question - New Type Steinway Lyre and  
> LegAttachment
>
> Kerry,
>
> I forgot to add, with the new system the Allen wrench tightens the  
> bolt firmly into a hole providing more than just a friction fit. I  
> ain't sayin I like it, but this may be the "advantage" they see.
>
> Jim
> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On  
> Behalf Of Kerry [kerrykean at att.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:36 PM
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Quick Question - New Type Steinway Lyre and  
> LegAttachment
>
> I have to agree. Can anyone explain the advantage over the old system?
>
>
>
> Kerry Kean
> www.kerrykean.com
>
> From: wimblees at aol.com [mailto:wimblees at aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:56 AM
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Quick Question - New Type Steinway Lyre and  
> LegAttachment
>
> I don't like it, primarily because of the need for an Allen wrench.   
> It means another tool we have to carry around to use once every 10  
> years.
>
> Wim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William R. Monroe <bill at a440piano.net>
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:22 am
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Quick Question - New Type Steinway Lyre and  
> Leg Attachment
> Paul, the square male end slides into the female receiver. The set  
> screw is tightened with an Allen wrench through the receiver into  
> the male end.  I like it, other than the need for an extra tool.
>
> William R. Monroe
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:48 AM, PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com wrote:
>> Mark:
>>
>> From the picture, I can't see what the use of the Allen wrench  
>> might be. How do these actually lock together? Or just let me know  
>> the appropriate SS bulletin to reference. Thanks.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> In a message dated 7/7/2009 7:03:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pianotech at nhpianos.com 
>>  writes:
>> Joe - here's a pic from a recent S&S technical bulletin. The tool  
>> needed is an 8mm or 5/16" Allen wrench.
>>
>> - Mark
>>
>> <IMAGE_151.jpg>
>>
>> Joe DeFazio wrote:
>> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">Hi All,
>>
>> I stopped at a hall tonight very briefly to look at a rental S&S B  
>> that was just moved in for some upcoming concerts.  Regulation is a  
>> disaster.  I immediately noticed that one of the lyre support  
>> sticks was not installed properly by the piano movers (it was just  
>> hanging there).  I also noticed that the legs attach via the new  
>> S&S method (as of the last couple of years).  I have not worked on  
>> the legs or lyres of any of these new-style S&S grands before.
>>
>> My question is:  besides the fact that the lyre is locked in place  
>> by two screws instead of a cam, is there any difference in the lyre  
>> attachment system as compared to the traditional S&S lyre?  In  
>> other words, is it just sliding-dovetailed metal plates that slide  
>> forward (towards the performer) to dismount, or is it some new- 
>> fangled contraption?   Yes, for the record, I like new-fangled  
>> contraptions.  I like excellently engineered old-fangled  
>> contraptions, too.
>>
>> I will have barely enough time to take care of some serious  
>> regulation problems tomorrow between rehearsals, so if anyone can  
>> save me even a few minutes of fussing around during that brief and  
>> inadequate time, I would appreciate it.  I would normally not ask a  
>> question of the list that I could figure out on my own, but in this  
>> instance, I won't have any figuring time.  I also hate to go  
>> hurriedly whacking on piano parts with a mallet if, in fact, they  
>> weren't designed to be whacked.  A piano is not a perky plastic mole.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joe DeFazio
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>> P.S. -  I have absolutely no reason to take the legs off, but if  
>> anyone wants to remind me and the list how the new leg mounting  
>> system works, I bet I'm not the only list member who read about it  
>> some time ago and forgot it since....
>>
>> </div>
>>
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