[pianotech] regulating backchecks?

Al Guecia/AlliedPianoCraft AlliedPianoCraft at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 30 15:03:48 MDT 2009


I sent 3 email size photos but they didn't go through, so I'll send one at a 
time and see if that works.

Here are the photos. I only had an action frame to show how I clamp it to
the bench. When I went back to the shop, I see that I have 6 glide bolts not
5.
I have a stop on the bass side of my bench and I use the tape to position
the action in the front.

Al G.

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From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 1:39 PM
To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
Subject: Re: [pianotech] regulating backchecks?

> Al,
>
> Sounds like a good set-up...maybe a photo or two?
>
> David Ilvedson, RPT
> Pacifica, CA  94044
>
> ----- Original message ----------------------------------------
> From: "Al Guecia/AlliedPianoCraft" <AlliedPianoCraft at hotmail.com>
> To: ed440 at mindspring.com; pianotech at ptg.org
> Received: 7/30/2009 4:10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] regulating backchecks?
>
>
>>I installed 5 glide bolts upside down (similar to some Baldwin grands) on
>>the front of my bench (which is a Steinway B keybed) and use them to make
>>the adjustments. The way I set them up is to use action springs to hold 
>>the
>>action firm to the bench, then I raise and lower the front glides in the
>>bench by checking the center glides as you do when bedding the action,
>>making adjustment to the front glides bolts 'til you get it right. Then I
>>check the key dip to be sure it's correct. Works great. I don't need to 
>>make
>>many adjustments in the piano after that.
>
>>Al G
>
>
>
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>>From: "Ed  Sutton" <ed440 at mindspring.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:56 PM
>>To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>Subject: Re: [pianotech] regulating backchecks?
>
>>> If you're taking the action home:
>>>
>>> 1) Bed the action in the piano
>>>
>>> 2) In the piano, remove four front key wool punchings, at the ends and
>>> middle of keyboard, and replace with cardboard punchings to make
>>> unambiguous match to the dip block.
>>>
>>> 3) Put the action on your bench, mark the location with clamp blocks or
>>> tape, shim with index cards until the measured keys match the dip block
>>> again.
>>>
>>> 4) Tape the cards to the bench top.
>>>
>>> es
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "David Andersen" <david at davidandersenpianos.com>
>>> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] regulating backchecks?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 29, 2009, at 11:07 AM, jim ialeggio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What I really want is a reliable protocol to prove that the bench  top
>>>>> keybed is precisely matching the piano's keybed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas out there?
>>>>
>>>> I'm continually surprised more technicians don't make use of the two
>>>> simple ways I've found to recreate exact key travel outside the piano:
>>>>
>>>> ---get real good at using a dip block (I use a hardwood 10mm) then
>>>> either
>>>>
>>>> 1. get an Edwards Action Trolley and recreate exact key travel by its
>>>> method...excellent and precise; or
>>>>
>>>> 2. when the action is in your lap, put a cheekblock face down on one
>>>> knee under the balance rail and oonch around, move that leg, until you
>>>> find the point where the key travel becomes exactly what it was in the
>>>> keybed. Doing it will show you what I mean, and either protocol will
>>>> create a sharp rise in your regulation precision and get you real, 
>>>> real
>>>> friendly with your dip block.
>>>>
>>>> David Andersen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
> 
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