Tom,
I’d like to purchase this from you. Is this in good shape
with all parts and accessories that might be necessary?
Greg Newell
Greg's Piano Forté
www.gregspianoforte.com
216-226-3791 (office)
216-470-8634 (mobile)
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Tom Servinsky
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:11 AM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: [pianotech] Oslond Key machine for sale
List
I'm cleaning out my shop and have a few items I no longer use. In particular
an Oslond Keytop machine and planner in very good condition. $350.00 plus
shipping
Contact me privately
Tom Servinsky
772 260 7110
----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew <mailto:toddpianoworks at att.net> Todd
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] sluggish (was no subject)
That is exactly. I added a weight on one of the problem keys and the issue
did resolve! Whippen flanges are fine (I already checked...as stated in my
previous e-mail).
TODD PIANO WORKS
Matthew Todd, Piano Technician
(979) 248-9578
http://www.toddpianoworks.com
--- On Sat, 6/13/09, wimblees at aol.com <wimblees at aol.com> wrote:
From: wimblees at aol.com <wimblees at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [pianotech] sluggish (was no subject)
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 3:06 AM
Matthew
In my 32 years in the business, I have never added weights to a Wurlitzer
spinet piano, much less any upright piano, and I've only done this to a
couple of grand pianos. I'm not saying your piano doesn't need it, but my
advice is to do this (add weights) to ONE key, and see if it solves the
problem. I still predict the sluggish key problem are the wippen flanges.
Wim
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Todd <toddpianoworks at att.net>
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Sent: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:27 pm
Subject: Re: [pianotech] sluggish (was no subject)
Like I said, Wim, I have eliminated all other possibilities, including what
you have mentioned. I am, as they say, 99.99% sure the issue is related to
key weight.
TODD PIANO WORKS
Matthew Todd, Piano Technician
(979) 248-9578
http://www.toddpianoworks.com <http://www.toddpianoworks.com/>
--- On Fri, 6/12/09, wimblees at aol.com
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<wimblees at aol.com
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wimblees@aol.com> > wrote:
From: wimblees at aol.com
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wimblees@aol.com>
<wimblees at aol.com
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Subject: Re: [pianotech] sluggish (was no subject)
To: pianotech at ptg.org
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pianotech@ptg.org>
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 10:13 PM
Matthew
Before delving into adding leads, etc, I think you need to re-evaluate the
situation, because I don't think this would be a key weight issue, at least
not on just one key. There are other reasons why a key doesn't return.
First, diagnose the key itself. Make sure it doesn't hang up on anything,
including the key bushings, the balance rail hole, or adjacent keys. Compare
the key in question with a neighboring key. By pushing down on the back of
the key, you should be able to feel a slight difference in resistance. On
older pianos, especially spinets where the key has a big angle in it, the
balance rail bushing wears out on one side. That will interfere with the
key's movement. It would be much easier to rebush just the one side of that
key, than to add lead weights. Keith likes jiffy leads, but when I have
found keys with jiffy leads, they might help the key move up and down, but
they don't solve the real problems. It takes a little bit of exploring, but
I've always been able to find the real problem, and solve it.
If you're sure it isn't the key, then look at the wippen flange. I know it
will be a big hassle, but remove the action, and repin the wippen flange.
Don't just add a little lubricant, and make the wippen move up and down.
These things have a tendency to work fine outside the piano, and even work
with the key disengaged. But for some reason, it is the pining that creates
the sluggish key. Unfortunately, if this means taking off the rubber
grommets at the ends of the keys, which might be hard, and will break,
you're going to have to tell the customer what's involved to solve the
sluggish key, and they might opt to put up with the sluggish key.
Good luck
Wim
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Todd <toddpianoworks at att.net
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=toddpianoworks@att.net> >
To: pianotech at ptg.org
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:30 am
Subject: Re: [pianotech] sluggish (was no subject)
I went back to the clients home this afternoon top diagnose the sluggish
key. Sure enough, it is a key weight issue. I eliminated all other
possible issues (such as key bushings, flanges, etc).
Now, what is the proper procedure to correct this problem?
TODD PIANO WORKS
Matthew Todd, Piano Technician
(979) 248-9578
http://www.toddpianoworks.com <http://www.toddpianoworks.com/>
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Keith McGavern <kam544 at allegiance.tv
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kam544@allegiance.tv> > wrote:
From: Keith McGavern <kam544 at allegiance.tv
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kam544@allegiance.tv> >
Subject: Re: [pianotech] sluggish (was no subject)
To: pianotech at ptg.org
<http://us.mc838.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pianotech@ptg.org>
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 11:59 PM
On Jun 5, 2009, at 6:30 PM, Matthew Todd wrote:
> I then held the key and moved the backcheck, and it returned fine.
Matthew,
I assume in this test you were attempting to eliminate the wippen flange as
being the cause of the sluggishness.
You may have done this and didn't say it in your post, but you also need to
disconnect the bridle strap and hold the hammer assembly towards the strings
as well as holding the key to feel sluggishness in the wippen flange when
you lift it somewhat up and down.
Aside from this test, most likely you have a key weight problem, especially
if you do determine the flange centers and the key bushings are basically
free. It is not an uncommon situation in some Wurlitzer vertical pianos.
Also, nested bushings are very possible as the angle of the keyarm can be
quite severe in some of these pianos in the treble section.
Sincerely,
Keith
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