[pianotech] Leveling keys

Paul T Williams pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu
Wed Jun 24 06:54:39 MDT 2009


I'm puzzled on why the B's from the 70's and 80's are so much worse in the 
break than the ones from earlier or later days. One of our piano profs has 
2 B's in his studio. One from '78 and the other is a '26.  No comparison 
on which is the better piano.  Was the scale messed with in the 70's?

Best,
Paul




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At 4:31 PM -0500 23/6/09, Paul T Williams wrote:

So... How did they feature the nastyness in the bass break on B's from the 
late 70's????

Because they are building them with the same inappropriately low tension 
at F21, as was a feature of their design of a century ago.

 Why the hollow restroom sound on that F???

No amount of voicing will fix the problem. The problem will remain 
systemic until the piano is re-scaled.

F21 at 145 cm speaking length with plain wire won't and can't work - 
that's the problem (the model D has 183 cm at F21, which is shorter than 
ideal but at least it works). A tenor bridge, from F21 to Bfl 26 
inclusive, will iron out the problem. A better solution would be to do a 
complete new design of the whole piano based on current best practice, 
instead of relying on best practice from 1890 to 'carry the can'.

Nossaman knows, anyone remember his B at Rochester? That's what is needed. 
One of the current 'design-heads' should be at S&S designing a new range 
of instruments, while their current 'design' team should be put out to 
pasture tuning at the local dealership.

I tuned a late production New York model B (strange serial number, just 
the numbers 81) for Simon and Garfunkel last night (last of three concerts 
here in Sydney). All the usual problems re the break, but the regulation 
was nothing short of a total disgrace. There was nothing there in the way 
of hammer alignment or burning angle, and the hammers were way too soft to 
develop a tonal palate suitable for a performance instrument. Each day the 
tuning went sharp in the tenor. I haven't seen a late New York B before, 
but it left me underwhelmed.

Ron O.

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