[pianotech] Aurally pure octaves

paul bruesch paul at bruesch.net
Fri Mar 13 18:19:13 PDT 2009


Nice writeup, Nick... and the animation at your linked page really clarifies
what's happening. I thought I understood what the deal was with partials,
and I did, but that animation makes it much more clear and concise.
Paul Bruesch
Stillwater, MN

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Nick Gravagne <gravagnegang at att.net> wrote:

>  William et al,
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> I remember a tuning class held at a large chapter meeting. Intervals were
> played and the beats were obvious to both newbies and veterans. Adjustments
> were made and we could all hear the beats speeding up and slowing down. A
> fine temperament was set by adjusting the beat rates for even thirds and
> sixths, and “quiet” fourths and fifths. A young man asked about coincident
> partials: “where exactly do they line up?”
>
>
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> The instructor said he used to know but wasn’t sure; there was some
> head-scratching in the room of 35 attendees, but a few had the answers.
> “You’ve been reading Braid White’s book, haven’t you?” Virtually all the
> veteran tuners adamantly opined that it is best to listen to the “obvious”
> beats, those we had been listening to during the demonstration. These
> obvious beats “sounding” at the fundamentals are what this list is now
> calling “whole tone” or “whole sound” listening or tuning.
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>
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> That chapter meeting was held in New Jersey in 1973 and I was among the
> newbies. I learned to tune by hearing the whole package, although later on I
> was pleased to isolate the partials. Tuning then became a balancing act of
> checking the whole sound with the partials of choice.
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>
> Virgil Smith is not a mathematician, but he had latched onto the concept of
> resultant forces. Ten forces of different magnitudes pulling an object in
> many opposing directions can all be reduced to one significant force --- the
> resultant force. And the object will move steadily in one direction and at
> one speed. The energy force in a vibrating string divides itself up among
> the multitude of partials; many sine waves superimpose themselves. The
> famous French mathematician J. Fourier (1768 – 1830) analyzed this
> phenomenon and gave us the famous Fourier curve, the single resultant
> curve/force that essentially represented the integral (the whole) of the
> many constituent superimposing partials, including the fundamental.  The
> single curve does not look like a simple sine wave; rather it is bumpy and
> strange yet periodic.
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> For fun, go to
> http://id.mind.net/~zona/mstm/physics/waves/standingWaves/standingWaves1/StandingWaves1.html<http://id.mind.net/%7Ezona/mstm/physics/waves/standingWaves/standingWaves1/StandingWaves1.html>and see a violin string animation of the Fourier curve as the resultant wave
> (the white wave) of partials. You have to build the Fourier pulse by
> clicking on the partial selections.
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> These curves do not simply exist for the convenience of study, they point
> to the reality of our physical universe. The simple act of standing up
> amounts to the resultant force of a multitude of smaller forces,
> equilibriums and gravity. Fortunately, we do not need to analyze these to
> simply stand up. What is true of physical mechanics is true of sound.
>
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> Now if the temperament note F exists as a single resultant curve, and A
> above it the same, then the superimposing of these two single waves running
> along a time plot will indicate an interference of 7 bps, and all this will
> be experienced by the ear at the fundamental level. Even more fascinating,
> the F and A will coalesce into its own single resultant curve, also periodic
> in nature. The relatively small energies that exist at the higher coincident
> partials could not possibly affect the intensity of the beating effect we
> have at the pitch frequencies unless the whole tone resultants are
> interacting.
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>
>
> And yet more mind boggling is that a single resultant curve exists for a
> sustaining chord played in different positions up the keyboard. There comes
> a whole brilliant swirling and shimmering sound, but shot through with tiny
> laser beams. Only piano tuners and certain musicians can surgically dissect
> these. It seems to me there must be a study or lab experiment that
> demonstrates this reality.
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> RicB: it is not a stretch to borrow from the world of higher mathematics
> and refer to partials as “derivatives” and to the combining of all these
> derivatives as the “integral”. Math purists might balk due to the implied
> functions, but relative to our discussion, we would then have Derivative
> tuning as partial-focused, and Integral tuning as whole tone, Fourier
> tuning. These sterile terms lack warmth, but they point theoretically in the
> right direction.
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> Regards,
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>
> *Nick Gravagne, RPT*
>
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