I have said that I believe a PureTuner tuning could serve well as a master tuning, with the exception of the high treble, for which the exam calls for clean single octaves. I have said that as a practical matter, master tunings tend to be somewhat more narrow than PureTuner tunings. Kent Swafford On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Jeff Deutschle <oaronshoulder at gmail.com>wrote: > Have you ever compared a Tunic tuning with a PTG Master Tuning? If so, > what, if any, is the difference? > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Phil Bondi <phil at philbondi.com> wrote: > > Hi all. > > > > I know I'm a few days late on this discussion, but after reading some > > comments here, I feel compelled to add my 2 cents. I also want you to > know > > that my experience with ETDs is limited to just one, and I do not have an > > understanding of how the others work. > > > > A few years ago, after talking to Dave Andersen and Tom Servinsky, I > started > > on my quest to 'tune like Virgil'. I find Virgil a fascinating study in > > accuracy, spot-on unisons, and the ability to do all that while teaching > a > > class is just phenomenal. I always felt my best aural tunings were as > good > > or better than the tunings I was getting from my ETD. Cocky? no. > Confident. > > I learned how to tune aurally from using my ETD as my guide, but after > > watching Virgil, hearing what he was producing, and talking to those > techs, > > I realized I was woefully behind those techs in my personal quest to > bring > > each piano I service to its pinnacle. I better mention that Larry Crabb > > might be a tad upset with me if I didn't mention his influence and his > > involvement in my development of aural tuning. He taught me what to > listen > > for, and how to test. > > > > A few years pass while I'm on my quest to sound like Virgil, Dave, and > > others that I felt were steps ahead of me aurally..always asking > questions, > > and trying to listen and hear what I was missing in my tunings.. > > > > ..then I heard Tunic. > > > > I remember hearing Bernhard's example that he shared on pianotech..a > piece > > in Bmin. - and I remember thinking..oh my..that's it. There were some > > comments that his sample was a nicely tuned piano with a good voice > attached > > to it. I could not have disagreed more. What I heard was a tuning that > > transcended anything I had heard before from a ETD, or was able to > produce > > consistently aurally. > > > > Last year in Anaheim, Dave Andersen was there with a piano..so was the > > Ranvenscroft. Both of these instruments impressed me with their clarity > and > > translucent voice. I forget which one, but I believe one of those pianos > was > > tuned using Tunic. As a new RVP, the majority of my time was tied up, > > literally!, in meetings, so I was not able to take in all that Anaheim > had > > to offer. I met up with Bernhard in the lobby..on Sunday..as people are > > leaving from their Convention experience, I'm finally getting to mine, > and > > it's with a developer that shared with me 'the sound' I was after. After > > talking with Bernhard for 1.5 hrs., I agreed to purchase his software as > > soon as I was able. It took me 2 months to save up the money, and it has > > been a fabulous journey since then. My older ETD, while a trustworthy > > instrument and faithful tool, has been relegated to strictly pitch raises > > and poorly-scaled pianos. It has been replaced with Bernhards OnlyPure > > software, because the results that are produced with this software turns > > heads. > > > > I still tune aurally once in awhile, but Bernhard Stopper has developed > the > > software that Virgil Smith has been hearing all his life. I would have > never > > guessed that a piece of piano tuning software would ever be able to > produce > > Virgil Smith-type tunings without alot of tweaking and gnashing of teeth > > with the software. With Tunic, you turn it on, and go. I does not get any > > simpler than that. The results turns heads. > > > > -Phil Bondi(Fl) > > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Jeff Deutschle > > Please address replies to the List. Do not E-mail me privately. Thank You. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech_ptg.org/attachments/20090317/e5ec1a89/attachment-0001.html>
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