[pianotech] Brass properties of agraffes

Jude Reveley/Absolute Piano juderev at verizon.net
Sun Mar 29 16:19:47 PDT 2009


God bless you, Nick!

I would imagine only the manufacturers could supply you with the answers you seek, at least indirectly by revealing the exact ratio of the alloys they use.

Jude Reveley, RPT
Absolute Piano Restoration, LLC
Lowell, Massachusetts
(978) 323-4545
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nick Gravagne 
  To: pianotech at ptg.org 
  Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:03 PM
  Subject: [pianotech] Brass properties of agraffes


  Hi All,

  Does anyone know the mechanical properties (more or less) of the brass used in today's agraffes, or those of yesteryear? This probably varies with manufactures around the world. Brass is basically an alloy of copper (say 70%) and zinc (say 30%), but often includes other alloying elements such as tin or even aluminum in order to modify its properties for strength and workability (hot worked, cold worked, machinability). Something called High brass containing 65% copper and 35% zinc, has a high tensile strength and is used for springs, screws, and rivets. Seems as though High Brass would make sturdy agraffes.

  Of all the properties, I am most interested in tensile strength, both ultimate and yield (ultimate strength being at times significantly higher than yield). Also, how are agraffes manufactured today: extruded, blanked and machined, cast and machined? Tempered? 

  I am asking because I would like to work up torque values for agraffes, whether re-installing the originals or replacing with new. Preloading refers to initial (safe) torque, this load is then statically increased by the up-pull of the strings, and is finally increased dynamically by the vibrating string (I would factor this in as a forte blow). I realize that many of you don't need these values as you have been successfully torquing up agraffes by feel for many years. I understand that quite well, but it would be nice to put some numbers on this and to consider safe limits for torque. 

  Over-torqued agraffes plastically deform and develop strain-hardening just under the head and above the threaded stud, and this hardening causes ductility to drop.  The over-torqued (torsioned) agraffe has passed the yield point and is now compromised. How much depends.

  If someone out there has already investigated this, or has data from anywhere, I would be interested in the findings. 

  Thanks  

  Regards,

   

  Nick Gravagne, RPT

  Piano Technicians Guild

  Member Society Manufacturing Engineers

  Voice Mail 928-476-4143

   


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