[pianotech] (no subject)

Jeff Deutschle oaronshoulder at gmail.com
Tue May 12 11:46:47 MDT 2009


Jerry:

And how do you know which side I am on???

Seriously, I believe in floating pitch also. And sometimes on a piano
that is a little off pitch, but pretty much in tune with itself, I
will tune it just a little closer to being on pitch rather than upset
the stability with a larger change of pitch. But then I have to wonder
where the line is between floating and tune-it-where-it-is?

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Gerald Groot <tunerboy3 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Oh, I didn't side on your side Jeff.  I was just a smart remark is all. :-)
> I am for tuning to A/440 in most cases.  While I believe that it is okay to
> let it float occasionally, depending on where one is located and the time of
> year, I did that today for example with a piano that was A/438.  Give it 3
> or 4 weeks and it will come up to A/440 as our humidty increases here.  It
> was 37 % RH there today.  It will surpass that pitch by 1/4 tone come mid
> July to August here.
>
> Jer
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> Gerald:
>
> As I said: "This can be used as an argument for both tuning where it
> is or for tuning to pitch." I am surprised that you side on the
> tune-it-where-it-is argument. :-)))
>
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Gerald Groot <tunerboy3 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I guess we might as well just tune all pianos 1/2 to 1 full tone flat or
>> sharp, or wherever they are then with that theory huh?  :-)))
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On
> Behalf
>> Of Conrad Hoffsommer
>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:47 AM
>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] (no subject)
>>
>> On 5/11/09, Jeff Deutschle <oaronshoulder at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Well, many teachers don't get their pianos tuned regularly, either.
>>>
>>> Also, I believe, that when there is a major pitch raise, the bends in
>>> the wire move to new places, cause false beats in the treble (at least
>>> for a while) and also cause instability as the bends straighten and
>>> new bends form. This can be used as an argument for both tuning where
>>> it is or for tuning to pitch.
>>>
>>
>> Musing...
>> Wouldn't that be that the strings are going back to their original (at
>> pitch) kinks, thus _eliminating_ false beats which may have been
>> caused at the tuning pin/capo/v-bar end of the string? The major
>> movement would be at that end and very little at the bridge end where
>> there probably are false beats from other causes, anyway.
>>
>>
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