[pianotech] Steinway A Bass String Rescaling

William Truitt surfdog at metrocast.net
Sat May 23 17:16:54 MDT 2009


"we don't hear the inharmonicity in pianos. ... too much emphasis is still
being put on absolute inharmonicity values in scaling."  So Ron, this meants
then, that you would favor a scale with no inharmonicity, right?  (I KNOW
that I'm being bad, but I can't help myself...)

Will

-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of Ron Nossaman
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 5:27 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Steinway A Bass String Rescaling

William Truitt wrote:
> I don't think that an "acceptable" range of inharmonicity can ever be
> determined objectively, nor is that necessary or even desirable.  That's a
> bit like asking "What's the best color red?"  You are asking people for a
> judgment (perhaps based on certain criteria, but also shaped by
> preferences).  Why would an absolute standard be a good thing?  I think it
> is great that we have many different pianos based on different
inharmonicity
> curves as well as other criteria.  That being said, many of us would agree
> that certain pianos sound better than others, and this can be correlated
to
> the amount of inharmonicity and the smoothness of the curve (amongst a
> multitude of other things that we cannot separate from inharmonicity, as
Ron
> points out in his curmudgeonly fashion :-) ).  

My point was, and is, that we don't hear the inharmonicity in 
the pianos. We hear tension, Z, and partials mix our choice of 
core wire, tension, and break% gives. Inharmonicity comes in 
when you're trying to tune across a transition with a big 
mismatch.


>We do understand a hell of a
> lot more about inharmonicity and the other factors involved in string
> scaling than we did 50 years ago, and that is being put to use in scaling
> and rescaling pianos today.  Do we know everything there is to know?  Not
> likely.  
> 
> Will

Yes, we do know a lot more, except that too much emphasis is 
still being put on absolute inharmonicity values in scaling.
Ron N




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