[pianotech] Tuning speed

[paul bruesch]

Asking again... in these demonstrations, did the ETD user just "stop the
lights", or did he also use his ears?  I reckon that most ETD users that
produce a decent result need to use their ears.

Nearly every single ETD-vs-aural discussion on this list brings up the need
to use one's ears in addition to watching the pretty lights.

If in this Coleman/Defebaugh demonstration the ETD user completely turned
off the hearing/listening part of his brain, then that would indicate that
the technology in effect, even at that time, was equally capable to some of
the finest ears around. This would render the discussion about aural skills
(aside from being used in backup capacity) a moot point.

On the other hand, if Jim didn't pay 100% attention to the lights then the
demonstration/test is immaterial.

Paul Bruesch
Stillwater, MN

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:50 PM, David Ilvedson <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Coleman and Defebaugh did it right with their classes showing how both
> methods produced essentially the same thing...
>
> David Ilvedson, RPT
> Pacifica, CA  94044
>
> ----- Original message ----------------------------------------
> From: PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Received: 11/2/2009 1:43:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Tuning speed
>
>
>
> >In a message dated 11/2/2009 6:38:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> >l-bartlett at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
> >First  year the machine was voted the winner.
> >
> >Au contraire. In both cases, and including the comparison tunings  done
> >between me and Virgil for the Chicago Chapter, there was no clear
> "winner".  If
> >we continue to think in these terms, then both aural and ETD tuning will
> >always be a cause for contention.
> >
> >Paul
>
>
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