Explaining further. During a pitch raise, I mute strip. Tune the middle string, pull out the strip, then tune the bottom string of the privious unison, tune the top string of the next unison, tune the middle string of the next, repeating the previous procedure. The less movements of hands and mutes the quicker the pitch raise. I often use mutes during a find tuning but not always. I may do the same procedure above during a fine tuning. Either way, I do tune the unisons as I go. -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Ilvedson Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 10:44 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] [Pianotech] Tuning speed I haven't used a strip mute in 10 years...as a ETD user you know what small tension changes does to stability. Those tuned middle strings have changed by the time you come back... David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA 94044 ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: "Gerald Groot" <tunerboy3 at comcast.net> To: pianotech at ptg.org Received: 11/2/2009 6:57:56 PM Subject: Re: [pianotech] [Pianotech] Tuning speed >You use a wedge for every one? Not me. I mute strip it. Faster. >-----Original Message----- >From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf >Of Robin Stevens >Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 7:08 PM >To: 'David Ilvedson'; pianotech at ptg.org >Subject: Re: [pianotech] [Pianotech] Tuning speed >" If RCT is that slow in picking up/displaying the pitch, maybe it isn't >perfected" > When I Have finished tuning a pin I firstly put the hammer on the next pin, >change the paps wedge position, strike the note and by the time my hand >moves from the wedge to the hammer CyberTuner has read the note and displays >the over pull needed. So I cannot see where it is slow. David, have you kept >up with the upgrades? (latest version 4.3.5f1) and also a older machine >might be the cause of slow reading. >Robin Stevens >-----Original Message----- >From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf >Of David Ilvedson >Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2009 9:51 AM >To: pianotech at ptg.org >Subject: Re: [pianotech] Tuning speed >If RCT is that slow in picking up/displaying the pitch, maybe it isn't >perfected...? For me an ETD is vitally important for quickly checking >aural problems as I progress through the tuning. i.e. what has changed to >make that octave suspect. It might a prior unison that needs >tweaking...unisons as you go! >David Ilvedson, RPT >Pacifica, CA 94044 >----- Original message ---------------------------------------- >From: "Gerald Groot" <tunerboy3 at comcast.net> >To: pianotech at ptg.org >Received: 11/2/2009 1:25:44 PM >Subject: Re: [pianotech] Tuning speed >>Oh, I don't know about that. Some of them yes. I used to be a very staunch >>aural tuner only. That is, until RCT finally perfected it enough for my >>satisfaction. Sounds rather arrogant I know but, it's true. I use it all >>the time now unless that is, I'm going for speed. The thing I hate the >most >>about it is that I hear it LONG before RCT picks it up and could have had >it >>tuned already in many instances. >>Jer Groot >>-----Original Message----- >>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On >Behalf >>Of Duaine & Laura Hechler >>Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 12:54 PM >>To: pianotech at ptg.org >>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Tuning speed >>Robin Stevens wrote: >>> >>> <snip> The ETD knockers should spent a bit of time and see how good >>> this program is rather than saying aural is the only way. >>> >>> Robin Stevens >>> >>AMEN, AMEN and A M E N - I use Cybertuner too. >>Plus, my mentor of 30+ years aural tuning, taught me to tune with >>Cybertuner. >>BUT, I'm sure some of the staunch aural tuners will NEVER try using an ETD. >>-- >>Duaine Hechler >>Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ >>Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding >>Reed Organ Society Member >>Florissant, MO 63034 >>(314) 838-5587 >>dahechler at att.net >>www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com >>-- >>Home & Business user of Linux - 10 years >> _____ >>avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. >>Virus Database (VPS): 091102-0, 11/02/2009 >>Tested on: 11/2/2009 4:25:44 PM >>avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > _____ >avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 091102-0, 11/02/2009 >Tested on: 11/2/2009 9:57:56 PM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091102-0, 11/02/2009 Tested on: 11/3/2009 8:23:29 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software.
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