[pianotech] Ibach Grand

Mike Spalding mike.spalding1 at verizon.net
Thu Nov 26 06:27:43 MST 2009


Frank,

There's no need to take a side - I suggested "also" checking C8, not 
"instead of".  Seems to me with a mystery such as this Ibach, the more 
data points he can consider, the better.  A quick scan of some scales 
for grands in the 5' to 6' range shows that targeting A49 at 415mm gives 
a range of about 3 notes.  So does targeting C8 at 52 (wider range if 
you consider the S&S model S).  So maybe looking at both notes will 
yield a little more certainty than just looking at one or the other.

cheers

Mike

George F Emerson wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> I have to side with Ron N.  Measuring the length of A4 makes more 
> sense.  On quick review of scales I have studied, the length of A4 
> ranges from 400 to 429mm.  415 is a good median, but obviously the 
> shorter length (400) is in a spinet, and the longer length (429) is in 
> a concert grand.  Judging where your piano falls in the range from 
> spinet to concert grand can give you a better length to target.  Also 
> consider that the difference in length from note to note, at A4, would 
> be about 20-22 mm.
>
> Regarding C8, there is nothing sacred about a 60% break point.  
> Depending on the v-bar termination material, radius, and deflection 
> angle, a higher break percent can be tolerated in the highest notes.  
> To expect that the maximum length for C8 would be 52, just because it 
> exceeds 60% break point, ignores the reality that many scales 
> historically go well beyond this length.  54mm is not unusual, without 
> presenting any problems with string breakage, when mitigated by other 
> factors (mentioned above).    This is a difference of only 2mm, but 
> the difference from note to note in this part of the scale is only 2 
> or 3mm.  Also, it is difficult to accurately measure shorter lengths 
> at C8, than at A4.
>
> Frank Emerson
>


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